What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Vahlnir]

It just amuses me how long it took for the tables to turn on here. Everytime I read this stuff lately. I was saying this all years ago!

I woke up to this and suddenly I'm agreeing with people I never thought I'd 100% agree with. It's...surreal.

[LisSquid]

It just amuses me how long it took for the tables to turn on here. Everytime I read this stuff lately. I was saying this all years ago!

To be honest, the influx of new players and an aging old guard have helped. I remember the push back being muuuch worse to criticism, but now you hear more voices joining the chorus. So to speak. The way people used to talk about sprouts who quit during the early MSQ was deplorable. Now people just shrug and go, "Yeah, it's bad."

[SturmChurro]

I woke up to this and suddenly I'm agreeing with people I never thought I'd 100% agree with. Strange times. It's...surreal.

I know you've seen the arguments I've gotten into over the years on here. Just to see people echoing what I was saying, getting a lot of likes, and people in agreement.. that's surreal to me.

To be honest, the influx of new players and an aging old guard have helped. I remember the push back being muuuch worse to criticism, but now you hear more voices joining the chorus. So to speak. The way people used to talk about sprouts who quit during the early MSQ was deplorable. Now people just shrug and go, "Yeah, it's bad."

I have a thread from 2019 talking about the new player experience, and I had to solely defend my view.

[Vahlnir]

Just to see people echoing what I was saying, getting a lot of likes, and people in agreement.. that's surreal to me.

It needed to happen, and it is, so it's a welcome change to say the least.

[LisSquid]

I have a thread from 2019 talking about the new player experience, and I had to solely defend my view.

One of my first threads was about letting new players do Coil. Adding it to the MSQ or making it more easily available. I was flogged about how it was too hard, and no one would ever like it or do it.

Then the great Streamer Event happens and every sprout in sight was joining and making a Coils syncd party.

Also I completely agree with you then and now that the new player experience is bogus.

[SturmChurro]

One of my first threads was about letting new players do Coil. Adding it to the MSQ or making it more easily available. I was flogged about how it was too hard, and no one would ever like it or do it.

Then the great Streamer Event happens and every sprout in sight was joining and making a Coils syncd party.

Also I completely agree with you then and now that the new player experience is bogus.

I've never even done coils, and I don't think I even knew what it really was for the longest time.

[BrokentoothMarch]

100% agree on this. While I enjoy playing FF14, and other games, I have a life I enjoy living as well. I don't need FF14 to be Lost Ark, thanks.

So we should kneecap the game let it continue to stumble for the demographic of people who don't want to play it that much because they're selfish and think shutting out options for others makes their gameplay better.

This isn't even a good business decision in the most sociopathic sense.

[Roxus]

100% agree on this. While I enjoy playing FF14, and other games, I have a life I enjoy living as well. I don't need FF14 to be Lost Ark, thanks.

If this game respected your time it wouldn't kill off jobs people have invested years in. And I don't know who told you what about Lost Ark, but it's actually less commitment than 14 after the initial hurdle.

[Shin96]

If this game respected your time it wouldn't kill off jobs people have invested years in. And I don't know who told you what about Lost Ark, but it's actually less commitment than 14 after the initial hurdle.

Correct. Before SE decided to remove Kaiten, I think they never outright removed important abilities to the overall job structure. Now, they show you how much they respect your time (sorry this saying is just hilarious lmao) by taking away all the time you've put into your rotation. All the fond days of leveling your job with said ability only for them to swoop in and take it away from you.

I cannot describe how much I hate this respect your time bullshit saying. You are still playing a game digitally and wasting houndreds if not thousands of hours on 'something' with no return. Except now, your brain isn't being used for anything. What's being respected is that you guys are losers to them and they can brush off feedback since you like to invade our spaces and stiffle the discussion about their misconduct.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Correct. Before SE decided to remove Kaiten, I think they never outright removed important abilities to the overall job structure. Now, they show you how much they respect your time (sorry this saying is just hilarious lmao) by taking away all the time you've put into your rotation. All the fond days of leveling your job with said ability only for them to swoop in and take it away from you.

I cannot describe how much I hate this respect your time bullshit saying. You are still playing a game digitally and wasting houndreds if not thousands of hours on 'something' with no return. Except now, your brain isn't being used for anything. What's being respected is that you guys are losers to them and they can brush off feedback since you like to invade our spaces and stiffle the discussion about their misconduct.

I don’t mean to be rude….but this is kind of extremely tone deaf to healer woes lol and a partial reason why a lot of healer mains are upset atm. Samurai is NOT the first example of SE removing important abilities related to job structure. Let’s look at Scholar for example. They used to basically be the dot healer. They had Aero,Thunder,Shadow flare,Bio, bio 2, Miasma,Bane. Now? They only have bio… Even just looking at their fairies and the job structure around that, the fairies used to be unique and different. Now they’re literally exact clones of each other and use the same abilities. People only notice and speak out about the problems when it’s related to dps. Healer mains have spoken out for 6 years about this and nothing has changed