What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[CrownySuccubus]

kkron_m's art on twitter is how I personally wish they'd go for female hrothgar. It's nice and badass-looking without it making them too afraid of adding in another bestial playable character model.

I'd prefer those Au Ra any day though. What we got look a bit too much like porcelain dolls...

Yeah, unfortunately, never gonna happen.

At best, when the FemGar come out I see them looking like Cheetara and Pumira from Thundercats. Corporate creators like SE are typically afraid of making female characters less conventionally attractive. Especially in Japan, where Moe and Kawaii are so normalized.

[KizuyaKatogami]

According to the devs themselves, they always wanted to make a more "bestial" race. You can see this in the early designs for Au Ra, which were a lot more draconic.



For some reason, they decided to go in a much more human route, and the Au Ra women in particular were made much, much cuter.



So the Hrothgar were sort of their "do-over" to finally create a bestial race, and even then, they still chickened out and decided not to add women. Personally, I can only hope that when the FemGar finally are released, they look even HALF as badass as the earlier dragonlady designs.

Right, the devs themselves wanted it. So it was their own selfish desires that gave birth to a half assed race that yoshi p for as much as he preached how much he wanted them doesn’t even play, and they’re all starting to get an attitude and even mock hrothgar players whenever asked about their development.

[CrownySuccubus]

Right, the devs themselves wanted it. So it was their own selfish desires that gave birth to a half assed race that yoshi p for as much as he preached how much he wanted them doesn’t even play, and they’re all starting to get an attitude and even mock hrothgar players whenever asked about their development.

Unfortunately, that about sums it up.

[Midareyukki]

Right, the devs themselves wanted it. So it was their own selfish desires that gave birth to a half assed race that yoshi p for as much as he preached how much he wanted them doesn’t even play, and they’re all starting to get an attitude and even mock hrothgar players whenever asked about their development.

Yep, pretty much. Except it now backfired because they have people who actually like them and want them more complete.

Still, I just hope that people don't realize that that's what the devs thought and start defending their decision to look at Hrothgars with disdain. We already had 3 years of bullcrap comments aimed at us, and we're still looked down upon for being "the furry race". We don't need any further crap.

[IdowhatIwant]

Yall realize, when the graphical update comes out. Viera's probably still won't be able to wear hats. I am calling it now.

[Rokke]

Yall realize, when the graphical update comes out. Viera's probably still won't be able to wear hats. I am calling it now.

Graphical update means textures and lighting...so it wouldn't be shocking that they still cannot wear hats. Hats/hair are model issues.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I'm guessing SE figured this time could be different? People wanted a race that existed in previous games (female Viera) and bare in mind SE never had any visual concept for what male Viera looked like, so pretty much a 10+ year old lore was the reason for gender-locking of that race, which still in my opinion, is not such an atrocious thing. As I also said in the female Hrothgar thread, male Hrothgar probably were pretty much meant to be Viera's gender counterpart considering these are 'two unique races' being brought in at the same time.

Iirc they do have Visual concept art for male viera that they released during HW. The issue seemed to be Yoshi P…he made a pretty unsightly comment of “well, bunny boys would be weird so we might have to come up with an alternative for the males.” Why would bunny boys be weird yoshi p? O.o then again they were also against giving a bunny outfit to males for awhile as well….interesting interesting insights.

[Lium]

For some reason, I'm just now seeing this thread. Glad I found it. Was hilarious.

Spoiler alert: FFXIV is still the #1 MMO in the world. These are not the Final Days of the game. But thanks for the laugh! I honestly needed it today. Not sarcasm.

[LisSquid]

Spoiler alert: FFXIV is still the #1 MMO in the world. These are not the Final Days of the game. But thanks for the laugh! I honestly needed it today. Not sarcasm.

FFXIV is not going to lose much ground until the next gens arrive, but this is an aging and increasingly unpopular gaming format. MMOs are not the titans they used to be.

[LianaThorne]

FFXIV is not going to lose much ground until the next gens arrive, but this is an aging and increasingly unpopular gaming format. MMOs are not the titans they used to be.

It's not going to lose ground period unless an MMO comes along that can provide the exact same that 14 does and even more. There's a reason why it's remained #1, even with others trying to bust into the genre.