Solo fight to unlock savage tier

[forsakee]

I'm 100% for making SSS for that fight mandatory before you can enter EX or above content.

I've actually never done this but isn't this just attacking a target dummy with 0 mechanics?

[FoxyAreku]

This is unnecessary.

Your check to if you can beat the fight is the fight itself. I thought that was obvious.

Though funny story, Heavensward had something like this with the Faust check in alexander. While not solo, it was well known to be a tighter dps check than the fight itself that it was barring, and it was a nightmare.

[HyoMinPark]

On the upside, it would let them figure out if savage raiding is something they want to do. The introduction of enrage mechanics completely changes the challenge involved in the game that was introduced from level 1 (which is survival is enough). Unlike starting from level 1, the difficulty curve is much more tight, and it immediately throws the player into an 8-man arena. I agree a gating quest is a blunt instrument.

If gatekeeping is what you want, then such a tool already exists. Sure, it’s outside of the game, but everyone has access to it. If you want to gatekeep someone from joining your static, then The Website That Shall Not Be Named is there for you. I don’t think a solo instanced trial will do anything that it doesn’t already do in terms of recruiting for a static.

A better way to prepare players for bridging the gap between normal content and high end would to actually add a difficulty curve to the level-capped content. As it stands now, there is no bridge between the two. Versus, in the past, at least Extremes could be argued as a bridge between regular level-capped content and Savages. Add that, and maybe even add more in-game resources for teaching a job’s rotation and performance feedback. However, I realize the latter is basically a pipe dream.

I'm 100% for making SSS for that fight mandatory before you can enter EX or above content.

SSS doesn’t teach you anything, though. It’s just a striking dummy where you pew pew at it for 3 minutes without having to actually execute mechanics. Which is a huge part of the EX/Savage dance.

Aside from the fact that, in the past, tuning for the SSS dummies has been abysmal with regards to certain jobs.

[Liam_Harper]

DPS meters are never coming to this game, the developers have been very clear about that one.

But they are in the game. FFlogs has countless thousand parses. Nearly every Savage group has multiple people with one. The devs have been very clear they'll never scan your computer for third party software.

The only people who don't have access to meters are console users and new players who don't realize they exist.

[VerdeLuck]

But they are in the game. FFlogs has countless thousand parses. Nearly every Savage group has multiple people with one. The devs have been very clear they'll never scan your computer for third party software.

The only people who don't have access to meters are console users and new players who don't realize they exist.

Parsers are not a part of the game and are a 3rd party tool. You can clear EX fights and Savages without ever using one. They're not needed at all.

[Ransu]

I've actually never done this but isn't this just attacking a target dummy with 0 mechanics?

You've....never used the SSS? Its literally the best way to practice your rotations.

[Deceptus]

I've actually never done this but isn't this just attacking a target dummy with 0 mechanics?

If you can't meet a dps check on a stationary target dummy you have no business being in the real stuff.

You've....never used the SSS? Its literally the best way to practice your rotations.

Lots of folks use Target dummies in the open world or housing districts.

[SieyaM]

I think an entire hardcore raid server isn't a bad idea. Players must clear savage week 1 to be admitted onto it and clear every new tier it's first week to remain, if not they are removed and have to relocate to another. That server would have it's own DF matching separate from the rest and then all the players that min max hardcore and hate casuals can have their own world and complain about each other instead of the community at large.

[Syrri]

I think an entire hardcore raid server isn't a bad idea. Players must clear savage week 1 to be admitted onto it and clear every new tier it's first week to remain, if not they are removed and have to relocate to another. That server would have it's own DF matching separate from the rest and then all the players that min max hardcore and hate casuals can have their own world and complain about each other instead of the community at large.

You could've just said no

[KariTheFox]

How would this work for dancer? Which requires a partner for their kit to function properly.