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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Loonies View Post
    Good players can do this, but i am not a good player, i won't get better. When there was not much content and story anymore for me in WoW, i tried FF14 and now i am happy to have back lot of more easy content with a lot of story. I just do normal dungeons, i leave more difficult runs as savage and ultimate for the better players.
    So maybe expert, savage and ultimate runs should be more a challenge for heal as well, but this can be done without more dps buttons.
    And this is where I'm sorely tempted to put my mean veteran healer hat on, because the non-sequitur at the end tells me all I need to know. Riddle me this. If you don't engage with your kit to anywhere near to its fullest, and you -acknowledge- that you don't, and the skill ceiling were to increase without affecting your regular dungeon runs, the problem is.......?

    Ah right, I know exactly what the problem is. This is Healers Should Heal Only making its rounds yet again.

    See, I hear constant cautioning that veteran healers slow their venom, lest they make casual healers feel bad. Sure, that's an important caution to keep in mind. But I'm also going to point out something less obvious, but I feel is no less important: Sylphies don't want vets having fun either. And you can tell, because their arguments center around making sure that parts of the role they admit in one breath don't affect them stay unfun for people asking for more in the next. This is where the argument graduates from "But the role would be less fun for me if X" and moves into "NO! Healers should HEAL ONLY! Don't give those other healers more damage buttons! That's not your role!"
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Sylphies don't want vets having fun either.
    I imagine that Sylphies don't like that by adding more damage buttons while it might not effect their play it does widen the skill gap and make them look bad, therefore they're against it happening.

    iirc Yoshi himself said he was trying to lessen the healer gap by removing damage abilities and consolidating them, therefore making the skill gap look not as bad as it is, a fucking cliff.


    Maybe remembering wrong.
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    Last edited by Nethereal; 04-24-2022 at 08:19 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
    Quote Originally Posted by Someone 2
    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Mia Shino
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    iirc Yoshi himself said he was trying to lessen the healer gap by removing damage abilities and consolidating them, therefore making the skill gap look not as bad as it as, a fucking cliff.
    Never really understood this way of thinking. If the content can be cleared with someone performing at 40% then why rip the fun from the ones who can perform at 100%? You are unable to see damage meters without third party software fricken anyways. Developers spend way way too much of the time worrying about skill gaps that will always exist. Not everyone is as good at everything as everyone else.. You would think this is obvious as anything. Tis fact of reality. Make it one button or twenty and someone will find way to outperform another.

    This mad dash to place the skill ceiling so low it merges with the floor only results in boredom for some and stifles the chance for others to grow.
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    Ralt Hava
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    This is where the argument graduates from "But the role would be less fun for me if X" and moves into "NO! Healers should HEAL ONLY! Don't give those other healers more damage buttons! That's not your role!"
    Unlike my first post i am reading this thread now. And man as a lurker on thia forum i also notice this. It is like the 'healer only heals' crowd doesnt like it when people play the same job different than they do.
    It almost feels like this toxic behaviour you find at work were some people hate it when this one guy is doing the same job way better than everybody else. It starts to make them look bad.
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