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  1. #1
    Player
    Punslinger's Avatar
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    Adela Skychaser
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Jesus christ, the heale role is dead.
    With apologies to Monty Python:

    Yoshida: "Oh yes, the healer role. What's wrong with it?"

    Healers: "I'll tell you what's wrong with it, it's dead, that's what's wrong with it."

    Yoshida: "No, no it's accessible, look."

    Healers: "Look my lad, I know a dead role when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now."

    Yoshida: "Yeah, remarkable effects, that role, beautiful animations innit?"

    Healers: "The animations don't enter into it, it's stone dead!"

    Yoshida: "It's not, it's accessible!"

    Healers: "Alright then, if it's accessible, I'll get someone to queue for it. Sprouty! I've got a nice Adventurer-In-Need bonus if you wake up, Sprouty! This is your daily tomestone roulette alarm call! (nobody queues) Now that's what I call a dead role."

    Yoshida: "It's probably friendly for the sprouts."

    Healers: "Friendly for the sprouts, what kind of talk is that? Look, why did it fall flat on its back the moment Shadowbringers launched?"

    Yoshida: "The healer role prefers kipping on its back! It's a beautiful role, lovely animations."

    Healers: "Look, I took the liberty of examining that role, and I discovered that the only reason that it had been sitting on the Duty Finder in the first place was that it had been nailed there."

    Yoshida: "Well, of course it was nailed there, otherwise it would've muscled up to those PFs and 'voom!'"

    Healers: "Look, matey, this role wouldn't 'voom' if I put 4,000 item level through it, it's bleedin' demised."

    Yoshida: "It's not, it's accessible."

    Healers: "It's not accessible, it's passed on! This role is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its programmer! This, is a late role! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the Duty Finder, it would be pushin' up the daisies! It's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This is an ex-role!"
    (25)
    "Once upon a time, you were the based healer, who could carry any tank through the largest of pulls! Now you're just here because the Duty Finder said you have to be." - Lucy Pyre

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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Just a bit more to do damage wise on the healers, nothing crazy

    Make scholar a dot management healer
    White mage could be like black mage and have some deeper mechanic with lily's that alters their spells
    Astro more buffs? they already have the lowest personal dps so making this the healer to play if you want to be full support sounds good, just add more buffs
    And sage, i'm not sure, but i'd like to see their damage-healing mechanic be expanded upon so it's not just the scholar fairy in practice

    Just my 2 cents on what they could do
    (10)

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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-...4M_18NhpPR3ojs
    This is just sad.
    (7)

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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-...4M_18NhpPR3ojs
    (9)

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    Ralt Hava
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Just like to add my own 2 cent. Can we also give some mercy to people wanting to level up WHM, SCH and AST. What if the player wants to go through the MSQ and play it as an healer? Or go do relic weapons for the healer.

    Tl;dr: healers need an overhaul.

    Idk why i have to point out this out. But ff14 has more content than dungeon, trails, savage and ultimates. I have gone through heavensward MSQ twice (i have 2 characters) once as what ever job i wanted toghter with a friend of mine. And once as WHM not only for the expiernence of playing as healer. But that sweat sweat insta queue. But thats were is notice playing healer is boring. Having to press 1 button until i killed everything.

    People can say just play dps through the portion that doesnt require you to play as healer. You not only are ignoring a flaw to healer but are also 'taking away' the freedom to play how some may like to play the game. Like do you pay their sub or something?

    So for all the people defending glare mages.
    All i ask for people is play new game plus as healer. From arr to what ever. Heck make a new character even. And just stick to healers. Maybe you'll see what i mean or maybe not.
    (7)

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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralt21 View Post
    Just like to add my own 2 cent. Can we also give some mercy to people wanting to level up WHM, SCH and AST. What if the player wants to go through the MSQ and play it as an healer? Or go do relic weapons for the healer.
    I think my quote in my signature speaks for itself.

    Also, I'll remind everyone that YoshiP intends for the game to be solo friendly. How is WHM, AST, SGE and SCH solo friendly when for most duty content you're pressing ONE BUTTON.

    Also also, my signature addresses "go play DPS for MSQ".
    (7)
    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Twintania
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-...4M_18NhpPR3ojs
    This is what healers are going to look like in the next expansion i bet.
    (3)

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    Rask Crowe
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-...4M_18NhpPR3ojs
    What a depressing, but accurate, depiction of modern healing game design.
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    Funyun Knight
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    At this point why? We damn near no longer need healers. I'm actually waiting for no healer EX clears and I'm sure there'll be some mad lads who attempt Savage and Ult no healers.

    Actually, that would be a great wake up call for Yoshi and Co. to clear their hardest content with no healers and then turn to them saying "What was that about healers needing to play harder content for more engagement?"

    Savage Pandaemonium all WARs.
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  10. #10
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    At this point why? We damn near no longer need healers. I'm actually waiting for no healer EX clears and I'm sure there'll be some mad lads who attempt Savage and Ult no healers.

    Actually, that would be a great wake up call for Yoshi and Co. to clear their hardest content with no healers and then turn to them saying "What was that about healers needing to play harder content for more engagement?"

    Savage Pandaemonium all WARs.
    Its been done. p1s and p2s have been cleared with a group of 8 warriors and 8 gunbreakers

    extreme? well hydaelyn and zodiark ex got cleared super fast without healers. I am uncertain on endsinger ex, haven't looked. Not sure I want to tbh

    Ucob, the hardest of the ultimates? yup, done without healers.
    Uwu would also be cleared without healers were it not for a single mechanic that requires a healer lb3. Which means if they hadn't changed bard's lb from the healer one to its own a few years back, then healers would have 2 ultimates they aren't needed in.
    Tea has been solo healed

    E4s was also cleared when it was current without healers.
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