DPS/Healers pulling in dungeons

[SamsaraTrickstar]

This has become a trend after the surge of WoW players. Additionally this was solidified behaviour after tanks have become essentially obsolete with the removal of enmity generation aspected attacks.

Tanks are redundant now. It takes nothing to be a tank anymore hence why a DPS can assume this position. In fact with a RDM you can easily solo a dungeon now. Healers are also becoming obsolete with self-sustain options on tanks. (Warriors can even solo content on their own).

well this you got 100%. sadly most content do not need a tank or a healer or dps. you can go as 4 tanks and do fine or as 4 dps. 4 healers i think be a bit harder. but this what we will get as long as SE want to make this in to a solo game they can later port to mobile or something.

[Caurcas]

good thing kick is a thing then

I mean it's a free out and I can just requeue and get in another run within a few minutes. It's a win either way.

[Ath192]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them. In game this isn’t the norm, while double pulling is. Most people will be respectful and try to get along and when DPS or heal pulls they find it annoying but will most often say nothing to keep the peace. So there it is.

Truth is it’s annoying and rude behavior. Even more so than a tank single pulling. The argument of respecting peoples time falls apart the moment you zoom out and realize you are playing a video game so everyone in the game is wasting time. Albeit doing something they enjoy.

So when you pull and aren’t the tank, nobody will like you for it. They may put up with you or at best not mind it too much, but it is noticed and mostly not appreciated. As long as you know this go ahead and keep justifying it.

[Shin96]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them. In game this isn’t the norm, while double pulling is. Most people will be respectful and try to get along and when DPS or heal pulls they find it annoying but will most often say nothing to keep the peace. So there it is.

Truth is it’s annoying and rude behavior. Even more so than a tank single pulling. The argument of respecting peoples time falls apart the moment you zoom out and realize you are playing a video game so everyone in the game is wasting time. Albeit doing something they enjoy.

So when pull you and aren’t the tank, nobody will like you for it. They may put up with you or at best not mind it too much, but is is noticed and mostly not appreciated. As long as you know this go ahead and keep justifying it.

I don't like it either but they do have the means of healing incoming damage after the initial pull. At that point letting them die looks like an act of arrogance on part of the tank. Respect in this game isn't common so I wouldn't expect it at all.

All they have to do is re-establish the holy trinity without the power creep and lack of balance. DPS simply shouldn't be both healers and tanks. Blame SE for their lack of perspective on this.

I'd also add that damage in this game means little to nothing anymore. You can eat vulnerability stacks without suffering significant damage.

[rewd]

only if the the tank off stance and afking. so,,,,

You are talking about keeping aggro, which is what a tank should do. I'm talking about getting aggro, which every role can do easily by just doing their "job" - as you said - that is dealing damage and healing.

[Thi]

The question is how are DPS are ahead of you to pull ahead if your wall to walling? The mobs die and everyone moves, the DPS should not be ahead of you enough to pull ever.

[KariTheFox]

Every time one of these threads starts it’s a bunch of people justifying and rationalizing why it’s okay for them to pull for the tank and a few tanks enabling them.

Hi, I'm the tank coming in to be an enabler. I just want to make it very clear that if you're a healer or dps in a group with me and pull ahead of me, I will first - wonder how you did that? Did I drop my controller or something?

Second, promptly catch up and reestablish control of the pull.

Third, maybe throw an aurora on you just for fun.

And finally, thank you internally for making this dungeon run a tiny bit more interesting.

[Aluja89]

Hmmm... As a tank main, I don't believe we have a priority in pulling unless it's a Trial/A-raid/Raid. Just pop a sprint when this happens, learn from things instead of being frustrated by them.

[BristolRuss]

and dps called so as he D P S or healer as he H E A L S so what your point here. maybe uf yoiu want to be the "leader" of the party then play as the tank.

Tanks are not the leader of the party. There is no leader, everybody is equally important and needs to do their job. DPS kill enemies, Tanks get agro, healers keep people alive. There is no dedicated puller, and any tank who refuses to get agro because they didn't pull the mob or because they think they are the leader of the party is griefing.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

You are talking about keeping aggro, which is what a tank should do. I'm talking about getting aggro, which every role can do easily by just doing their "job" - as you said - that is dealing damage and healing.

ot as long as the tank doing it correctly. shame you never seen a good tank from what you saying