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    "Your job sucks, but it's about the experience. Close your eyes and pretend there is depth. Besides, BLM spams Fire IV too, why are you even complaining?"

    Ok. Bind Glare to five different keys, guys. We fixed healers.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    "Your job sucks, but it's about the experience. Close your eyes and pretend there is depth. Besides, BLM spams Fire IV too, why are you even complaining?"

    Ok. Bind Glare to five different keys, guys. We fixed healers.
    Yeah that's not what I said. I even said healers DO need more skills.
    I said Sage was closest to what I would like.

    And why else are you playing any game if not for the experience?
    What else is there? I'm not spending 20 minutes performing a rotation just so I can jack off to my parse afterwards.

    Depth improves the experience, but the illusion of depth is just as valid to that experience. Healers don't currently have that, which I get, but as I was saying, Sage is closest, and wouldn't need much more to get it there.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 04-23-2022 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Yeah that's not what I said. I even said healers DO need more skills.
    I said Sage was closest to what I would like.

    And why else are you playing any game if not for the experience?
    What else is there? I'm not spending 20 minutes performing a rotation just so I can jack off to my parse afterwards.

    Depth improves the experience, but the illusion of depth is just as valid to that experience. Healers don't currently have that, which I get, but as I was saying, Sage is closest, and wouldn't need much more to get it there.
    WaxSw already showed you why your argument is extremely weak.

    No, Sage doesn't have more DPS options. No, Sage doesn't have depth. No, illusion of depth does not have relevance. No, I won't pretend healing jobs are something they are not. Yes, I want and deserve real depth on healing jobs. Or I want Yoshida to clearly state healers are meant to be a subpar role so I can move on.
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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    "Your job sucks, but it's about the experience.
    completly ignoring the question of "do healers need more depth" yes, it is about the experience or "feeling" more than it is necesseraly about absolute numerical values. if they just changed every 1-2-3 combo to a 1-button "rotation" most classes would press "1" nearly as often as healers do right now, even though 1-2-3 is pretty much the most artificial depth to a class imaginable.

    that being said, i would love for healers to get "something" more, but there are people here that wouldn't be happy with anything less than a full dps rotation and i'm pretty sure that would not work out the way these peole imagine.

    for what it's worth, give healers a second dot , preferably not on a 30 second timer and maybe something like a stack mechanic, where every succesfull attack gives 1 stack and you can spend 5 stacks on an ogcd attack or something like that.
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    Last edited by Akiudo; 04-24-2022 at 08:38 AM.