What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Yes, I mentioned her mother first, and when she tried to use it as ammo and you're trying to do the same thing because she thought stating had an illness would suddenly make me feel like a bad human being, not realise I probably think she is lying because she would be a really bad child to use their mother's ongoing disease to win an argument on something like an internet forum, talk about not respecting your in mothers condition, you might give her some dignity in life.

Use as ammo. I didn't know stating a fact that makes your "run back to mom" childish joke moot is considered ammo. I don't care to make you feel like a bad human being. I don't know nor care about you. I just hate when people bring things up then deflect.
Keep my mother out of your mouth please and thank you

[Vryn]

Use as ammo. I didn't know stating a fact that makes your "run back to mom" childish joke moot is considered ammo. I don't care to make you feel like a bad human being. I don't know nor care about you. I just hate when people bring things up then deflect.
Keep my mother out of your mouth please and thank you

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's diminishing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

[Haruka_R]

Yes, I mentioned her mother first and when she tried to use it as ammo. You're trying to do the same thing but by proxy, because she thought stating she had an illness would suddenly make me feel like a lousy human being, not realising I probably think she is lying because she would be an evil child to use their mother's persistent disease to win an argument on something like an internet forum, talk about not respecting your mother's condition, you might give her some dignity in life if you at all cared about them. It's a really evil thing to do to use the infirm as a shield wouldn't you agree?

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

I agree that maybe you should just stop talkin.

[kpxmanifesto]

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

[SassyAssassin]

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's dismissing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?

What is the meaning of this? I dont agree with her but you are taking things a bit too far. Its a ffxiv forum not a psychology one in which no offense but you both fail not just her. Take your resentment and need to bash others to lift your self esteem somewhere else.

[Vryn]

What is the meaning of this? I dont agree with her but you are taking things a bit too far. Its a ffxiv forum not a psychology one in which no offense but you both fail not just her. Take your resentment and need to bash others to lift your self esteem somewhere else.

It's called a spine, don't use your mother as an evil excuse to try and shame people online. All you do is shame yourself, and I will wreck you in doing it. It's disgusting that you would use an infirm family member that way, and I will happily rectify it. I don't resent her. It's an online forum, and I don't know or respect her, but I will happily go as far as they want to go and then some, so they regret their decision. I'm petty like that because I'm the type of person who will enjoy doing to people who lie like that; if you dont want to get hit, dont do it and tell the truth if you don't like my methods too bad, they are the result of their actions and my own enjoyment in the process.

I even gave them a chance to stop before they escalated the situation. They could have happily ended it there when it was reasonable too. Once they continued my goodwill was gone.

Me caring about your mum wouldn't matter, and you know it doesn't. Stop trying to use your mum's illness as ammo.

The only one being toxic here is you. You came here to argue with people who are very unhappy after today. This, for many people, is the culmination of many years of disappointment and dissatisfaction. Why should anyone give you the respect you think you deserve when you don't show it to them? For many people, this is a breaking point. The prudent thing would have been to allow them to say their piece and then discuss how good the patch was a few days after rather than at 2-4 in the morning, depending on the region, to try and subvert their feelings.

Before you go calling other people toxic, you should know better. How about you show some tact by allowing others who paid their hard-earned cash to have some peace. We get you to disagree, and we know many more do, but the difference is they aren't here trying to start knowingly or unknowingly something to derail the forum. If you have something to say, do it a few days later, not right after it happens.