What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[KageTokage]

I have a lot of friends who have been consistently positive and upbeat about this game in their years playing it.

As of 6.1, I'm seeing a lot of unprecedented negativity from places that I wouldn't usually expect it. That is not a good sign.


One major gripe about the patch I don't see around too much but is talked about a lot among my friends is about how the new EX trial is horrible. This fight isn't just the last boss of Endwalker; It's mean to be the final boss of a core story arc that has spanned more than 10 years. Why did it get such a significantly lazier treatment than Shinryu, Hades and Thordan? The EX version is genuinely less interesting than the normal mode. How on earth did that even happen? I knew so many people hyped for the fight to release, and I literally don't know a single person that likes what we got.

It's funny because prior to release they said it would have "several" phases and people were expecting we would get something like Hades EX to actually warrant the extra totems...then it ended up being a single phase fight that starts repeating mechanics around the 50% mark.

[Kaurhz]

The new EX trial is horrible. This fight isn't just the last boss of Endwalker; It's mean to be the final boss of a core story arc that has spanned more than 10 years. Why did it get such a significantly lazier treatment than Shinryu, Hades and Thordan? The EX version is genuinely less interesting than the normal mode. How on earth did that even happen? I knew so many people hyped for the fight to release, and I literally don't know a single person that likes what we got.

I've largely tried to stay away from Ex and Savage, mainly because I don't really like the design philosophy around encounters. But that backstory aside. I got roped into this fight on Friday, prior to that I was actually freighted by how the overextended the emphasis was on the difficulty of the fight, but I was actually surprised to not only learn it hits weaker than normal mode, but the encounter itself felt like half a fight... That was probably my only disappointing moment of the patch, personally

[AziraSyuren]

I have a lot of friends who have been consistently positive and upbeat about this game in their years playing it.

As of 6.1, I'm seeing a lot of unprecedented negativity from places that I wouldn't usually expect it. That is not a good sign.


One major gripe about the patch I don't see around too much but is talked about a lot among my friends is about how the new EX trial is horrible. This fight isn't just the last boss of Endwalker; It's mean to be the final boss of a core story arc that has spanned more than 10 years. Why did it get such a significantly lazier treatment than Shinryu, Hades and Thordan? The EX version is genuinely less interesting than the normal mode. How on earth did that even happen? I knew so many people hyped for the fight to release, and I literally don't know a single person that likes what we got.

The EX trial is just a love letter to people who liked Stormblood fight design.

:copium:

[LittleImp]

The EX trial is just a love letter to people who liked Stormblood fight design.

:copium:

It's funny isn't it, O4S was basically the first thing I thought of after clearing EX3. I was like "oh god not this again".

[KizuyaKatogami]

We... don't get less gear.
We definitely get more than back when the game started.

We get 1 dg instead of 2 (thanks god), and because of that, they add other different kinds of cool content.

(Smaller maps? What do you mean?)

We literally didn’t get 89 dungeon gear this expansion, which has never happened any other expansion. We didn’t get our pvp set from wolf marks this expansion yet, we got the others in x.1.(the set in the new pvp rewards is the equivalent of a feast set afaik). We didn’t get a tataru glam in ShB and the one we got this expansion was a reused set. In SB samurai and rdm both got level 50/60/70 primal weapons. Dnc,Gnb,Sage,and Rpr still do not.

Alright, I'll give a solution then. Remove housing from the game and fire everyone involved in housing. They have shown time and time again they don't know what they're doing. Expecting people to stay up all night clicking on a sign? Simply absurd. If they can't do a feature right, then don't add it. Otherwise they are just giving us hope and letting us down over and over. Rework Island sanctuary into actual instanced housing, assuming the people in charge of that have an IQ above room temperature. Yoshi-p let 1.0 burn to remake it to be something good, it's time for the shitty housing team to go the same way.

Unfortunately, if you fire everyone from housing there would be no one to develop the Ultimates. Yeah, you heard that right. The same team in charge of housing is in charge of Ultimate too. I was baffled when i heard that lol

[Manofpassion]

Unfortunately, if you fire everyone from housing there would be no one to develop the Ultimates. Yeah, you heard that right. The same team in charge of housing is in charge of Ultimate too. I was baffled when i heard that lol

I really hope you're fucking kidding. I thought housing (ultimate) was a fucking meme! Jesus christ.

If there are any rng elements in the new ultimate this is gonna be the worst fight in the game. Every time a mechanic happens the boss might just cast 0 and kick everyone out of the instance. Jesus wept.

I am completely baffled by this knowledge. If they can't make a simple lottery, I'm surprised any of the fights can even be loaded at all.

[Elkanah]

I really hope you're fucking kidding. I thought housing (ultimate) was a fucking meme! Jesus christ.

If there are any rng elements in the new ultimate this is gonna be the worst fight in the game. Every time a mechanic happens the boss might just cast 0 and kick everyone out of the instance. Jesus wept.

I am completely baffled by this knowledge. If they can't make a simple lottery, I'm surprised any of the fights can even be loaded at all.

I just need the new ultimate to have a house placard you click on for 48hrs and then lose to a bot (and auto wipes the whole party at 1%). This way, we know it's working as intended when everyone reaches 0 and nobody ever completes the latest ultimate for several years irl. That's about as realistic of ultimate I could get, and probably enjoy because of all this shitstorm nam flashbacks I'll have to this day XD

[Clover_Blake]

We literally didn’t get 89 dungeon gear this expansion, which has never happened any other expansion.

????
We get two new dungeon sets every base expansion, regardless of their level (they never follow the same level anyway). We certainly did this one as well; one in Babil, one in Vanaspati.

We didn’t get our pvp set from wolf marks this expansion yet, we got the others in x.1.

We get 2 new sets per patch, +several lv.1 glamours, which are definitely more than we used to get. It doesn't matter if the two new sets come from dungeon, raid, tomestones, PVP, crafting, or extra content, as they never follow the exact same formula. It's always two (sometimes, even three when a minor patch drops, which surprises me).
In 6.1 we got two super awesome dyeable sets in the raid and the dungeon.
So yes, it is untrue that we are getting less sets.

We didn’t get a tataru glam in ShB and the one we got this expansion was a reused set. In SB samurai and rdm both got level 50/60/70 primal weapons. Dnc,Gnb,Sage,and Rpr still do not.

We didn't get a glam that came from Tataru in particular, but that doesn't mean we got less glams (and considering that nowadays they add new glams every minor patch, we're certainly getting a lot).

The one we just got in this expansion is not a reused set, where does that come from? o_O It's a completely new design that my WoL is currently rocking.

New classes don't tend to get old weapons, and if you ask me, I think that'd be a waste of resources. If you want an old weapon, play an old class.

The same team in charge of housing is in charge of Ultimate too. I was baffled when i heard that lol

What's wrong about that?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Yes, I mentioned her mother first, and when she tried to use it as ammo and you're trying to do the same thing because she thought stating had an illness would suddenly make me feel like a bad human being, not realise I probably think she is lying because she would be a really bad child to use their mother's ongoing disease to win an argument on something like an internet forum, talk about not respecting your in mothers condition, you might give her some dignity in life.

Use as ammo. I didn't know stating a fact that makes your "run back to mom" childish joke moot is considered ammo. I don't care to make you feel like a bad human being. I don't know nor care about you. I just hate when people bring things up then deflect.
Keep my mother out of your mouth please and thank you

[Vryn]

Use as ammo. I didn't know stating a fact that makes your "run back to mom" childish joke moot is considered ammo. I don't care to make you feel like a bad human being. I don't know nor care about you. I just hate when people bring things up then deflect.
Keep my mother out of your mouth please and thank you

If you didn't care then you wouldn't use something so personal as your mother's diminishing condition or is there some resentment there? I will happily keep your mother out of my mouth because her child doesn't respect her enough not to air her intimate details online. It's sad that I complete stranger might care more about your hypothetically infirm mother more than you do and you call others toxic. How can you ask for respect from others in this community when you don't even respect your own family?