What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Payadopa]

I think the game has problems like job design, spaghetti code or hrothgar hair, but I really don't agree with the rest. Every patch has tons of stuff to do for me and the quality of, say, the latest raid speaks for itself. And the level of self-expression is something I don't see in any other MMO. Their priorities seem a bit backwards sometimes but the sky is definitely not falling.

[IkaraGreydancer]

No they can't, because then the people unhappy come into that thread and have the "How dare you say something positive" attitude or accuse them of ignoring or being blind to issues. Can we just agree that people are going to have differing opinions and we don't get to decide when those opinions get stated? Everyone should feel free to speak up on these forums, but I rarely see anything positive because the negative people jump down their throats when they do.

100% agree but you may get blowback from this one. Folks don't like being called out

[Vryn]

Fairly certain most of us who played certain other mmo can see the red flags rather fast

I love how everyone's WoW instincts come back the minute they smell a hint of trouble. Unfortunately, the corporate bullcrap detector never goes away and never will. If these people don't agree or think people's concerns are overblown in their estimation, we all know they haven't seen an MMO die a diminishing death over 18years, along with the hopes and friend groups of the playerbase.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I love how everyone's WoW instincts come back the minute they smell a hint of trouble. Unfortunately, the corporate bullcrap detector never goes away and never will. If these people don't agree or think people's concerns are overblown in their estimation, we all know they haven't seen an MMO die a diminishing death over 18years, along with the hopes and friend groups of the playerbase.

So you're implying it's not possible for them to have seen an mmo die if they don't share your opinion. That's VERY off logic

[Theodric]

And the level of self-expression is something I don't see in any other MMO.

...and yet a decade into the game's development I still can't play a tall, conventionally attractive well-built human with authentic eyebrows. One of the most standard combinations in pretty much every fantasy game ever.

I like my Midlander, though I'd much prefer the option to play a taller guy with bigger muscles who doesn't look like he's lost a hundred bar fights.

[Vryn]

Alright, I'll give a solution then. Remove housing from the game and fire everyone involved in housing. They have shown time and time again they don't know what they're doing. Expecting people to stay up all night clicking on a sign? Simply absurd. If they can't do a feature right, then don't add it. Otherwise they are just giving us hope and letting us down over and over. Rework Island sanctuary into actual instanced housing, assuming the people in charge of that have an IQ above room temperature. Yoshi-p let 1.0 burn to remake it to be something good, it's time for the shitty housing team to go the same way.

How about you keep the old system, work on a new one that allows for instanced plots and then release that to the public. Still, those already with houses should not be deprived of that experience because you and I don't have one, or they could lessen that strain by allowing for bigger apartments. It's absurd that we state that a large plot can't be in an apartment. The same goes with a free company hall.

[Vryn]

So you're implying it's not possible for them to have seen an mmo die if they don't share your opinion. That's VERY off logic

Then maybe you should stop inferring things and start reading.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Then maybe you should stop inferring things and start reading.

And once again, the condescending crap starts. You people all operate the same way like clockwork. Not everyone is going to see things the same way despite having or being through similar things.

Love this community

[Vryn]

And once again, the condescending crap starts. You people all operate the same way like clockwork. Not everyone is going to see things the same way despite having or being through similar things.

Love this community

Then don't make it so easy for people to condescend, if you don't give them a reason to they won't do it. I love the bigotry towards those you disagree with. no one said they would see or think the same things the same proving my point that you don't read.

[TaleraRistain]

100% agree but you may get blowback from this one. Folks don't like being called out

Like I care. They haven't run me off after 7 years. They're not going to do so now. I'm just tired of the sniping. I'm tired of this atmosphere that if someone is empathetic with the developers that they don't see or don't care about issues and think the game is perfect. And using that as a reason to turn vitriol their way. They can hate the game if they want. They don't get to hate other players for disagreeing or try to intimidate them into not speaking up.