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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothric View Post
    That isn't a point at all. I am one of those winners; and like many other people have told you EVERY lottery so far was unfair. Some plots just happened to land on the zeroes that shouldn't have been included.
    If you pick and choose then you're bittering more people than you're pleasing.
    It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YandeBunny View Post
    It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.
    I am not saying I support this, but in theory I'd imagine it'd be possible for them to potentially rollback every single housing ward in the game so old plots were restored as well, but that's an entirely new can of worms I'm sure the dev team isn't eager to open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToppeHatte View Post
    I am not saying I support this, but in theory I'd imagine it'd be possible for them to potentially rollback every single housing ward in the game so old plots were restored as well, but that's an entirely new can of worms I'm sure the dev team isn't eager to open.
    You do have a point...it is possible they would be looking at the "bigger" picture of this situation, but I truly hope they do not do it. Begging even. If they do, they need to rollback and reserve those plots that did get a "relocation" back to the original FC owners so that there are no losses. I don't know if private houses can relocate, but as a FC leader, I Was hoping to just upgrade to a medium from a small. I would be horrified if I won and only found out i gotta try my luck again LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YandeBunny View Post
    It's nice to know you're okay that you won and still feel your plot should be put up for recount in the lottery with the chance that you are not guaranteed a second win. However, what of those who relocated? How would they be able to make up for that if they accepted the win, relocated and now have a plot that's put back into lottery. Meaning they may have lost there FC in the process of agreeing to relocate. This wouldn't make things right, but worse. I don't think they should/would do it for all the plots. Just the ones that got 0. Yes, it's not fair, and Im also agreeing that those who did win got the advantage and should just live with it because SE messed up.
    You really shouldn't assume that none of us who won relocated. Or gloss over everything that was said about instanced rollbacks.
    My friend had bid on the same medium in ward 1 as you. One of those that has a #0 winner. Would you be arguing so hard against a rollback if you had lost to him?
    I'm sure of your answer but after reading your posts I don't believe it. Just some food for thought. Enjoy your day everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Since you're so quick to throw around pejoratives, let's go through a little exercise. Say they can force the relinquishment of all Ishgard plots and refund every single participate, essentially starting over. However, they cannot rollback previously owned houses. In other words, if you relocated a large from Lavender Beds to Empyreum, you'll have 50M gil, no house and now only a chance at returning to your status quo.

    Would such an outcome be fair? Or is that too entitled as well?

    And before anyone says they could rollback everyone to their previous state. We don't actually know the limitations here. A rollback of that significance isn't simply you can just... do. If they could Thanos snap Saturday morning and return everything back to exactly how it was prior, we could entertain a rollback. Unfortunately, we have no idea if that's possible. Considering how egregious this mistake is, it's hardly unwarranted to assume they didn't prepare a backup in case something went wrong.
    The other poster is correct in saying that this is possible. It's been done before in cases of housing sale scams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinnaux View Post
    The other poster is correct in saying that this is possible. It's been done before in cases of housing sale scams.
    Rolling back a single account is a far cry from rolling back five entire wards with thousands of accounts affected. They also didn't rollback ownership. GMs simply removed gil from the scammer and gifted the victim it back, thus allowing them to repurchase their plot. We can't repurchase plots right now. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinnaux View Post
    You really shouldn't assume
    I'm sure of your answer but after reading your posts I don't believe it. Just some food for thought. Enjoy your day everyone.
    Some equal food for thought.

    The other poster is correct in saying that this is possible. It's been done before in cases of housing sale scams.
    Something undoubtably on a far smaller scale compared to this. You have to consider the sheer scale of this situation. It’s not comparable to a single instance of a housing scam when it’s the entirety of Ishgard housing AND the other wards where people have relocated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinnaux View Post
    You really shouldn't assume that none of us who won relocated. Or gloss over everything that was said about instanced rollbacks.
    My friend had bid on the same medium in ward 1 as you. One of those that has a #0 winner. Would you be arguing so hard against a rollback if you had lost to him?
    I'm sure of your answer but after reading your posts I don't believe it. Just some food for thought. Enjoy your day everyone.
    Where did i assume everyone who won relocated? As you quoted me, "What of those who relocated?" was towards the topic of those who did relocate and won. And I'm not arguing, I am only discussing the matter like everyone else here who are curious. And if lucky, have devs read and see our concerns and opinions out in the open to make a decision. And as you may not have seen, I was open minded of the idea that they would issue a huge rollback on all plots and why. While i understand why the would, but I'm hoping they don't since that's a whole issue they would need to fix.

    If your friend had won, I wouldn't even be upset. As I said in my first post, I was aware of my number being up against 1 and 2. Not 0, 1, and 2 (if this was SE's intention). Do you see where my concern is?
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