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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dxzstar View Post
    So I have a question. Do you feel there is any issue with DRK's usage of lines for their aoe's? Since those are arguably vastly more frustrating to properly line up. Do you think Flood and Shadowbringer should become circular? What of BRD and MCH as well? I'm sorry if this seems patronizing but it seems like you don't really mind those so I kinda wanna confirm and if so, ask why?
    DRK's is still questionable, but ranged DPS are designed to be, you know, at ranged, that's where cones work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    DRK's is still questionable, but ranged DPS are designed to be, you know, at ranged, that's where cones work.
    But cones are still melee. If you want to hit the pack, you need to be able to hit the furthest one from you, which means you are close to the ones at the front, so that logic doesn't work out.

    It is also a massive benefit to the party if mobs aren't grouped around the tank but rather grouped infront of them, which is where the cone AoE excels, and it had a much wider range than people seem to give it credit for. Having everything infront also helps DRK and Paladin with Flood/Shadowbringer/Blade combo as it is easier to hit everything in the pack. Warrior's cone essentially taught this to tanks naturally, you might not know why exactly you were doing it, but you did anyway.

    I was never a warrior main, however, whenever I did use it in a dungeon, it forced different pulling strategies on me, which helped to break the monotony of circles all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    DRK's is still questionable, but ranged DPS are designed to be, you know, at ranged, that's where cones work.
    I think it works about as well. Since you open up with overpower from a certain distance anyways and then keeping the mobs grouped right would require more work without it. DPS want the mobs in a tight ball. Which they will naturally separate out of. Especially with the larger mobs FF has taken to throwing out in the packs. (Looking at you Dead Ends) YOU, as a tank, should try to keep them from doing that. Say what you want, that is much easier with cones as your shorter, more inferior, circles will simply lack the range to smack the mobs at certain times while the DPS can just stand in the middle or target the middle most mob.

    I admittedly didn't even realize it had an effect like that until I did dungeons with some FC members and one of them mentioned she preferred the way I grouped mobs. Man, I'm just using overpower. But since I learned, I tried doing it with circles and it is a mite bit more challenging. Not much mind you, likely no more than using cones is for you, but dang. Overpower cone was putting in work and I didn't even realize.
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    Last edited by Dxzstar; 04-16-2022 at 01:17 AM. Reason: Changing cone to work

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