Stop complaining. You wanted this.

[AlzabetSmallberries]

I dont think the lottery is a bad idea really, but I do not understand the decision to have 3 times more FC housing than personal - across all housing zones... its just crazy.

I read in the past that Squeenix wanted to foster large, vibrant, active FCs.... having 3 times more FC housing than personal doesn't seem to be the best way to promote that goal.

if there are lots of large active FC's on a server, one FC house should be a FC home for dozens to hundreds of players... each personal house is just for one, maybe two players. It seems like they have the allotment backwards.

Having this many FC houses almost promotes tiny isolated FC's as people will likely split from larger FC's just so they can get a house - since a personal one is not nearly as likely to happen

[SanadaX]

I dont think the lottery is a bad idea really, but I do not understand the decision to have 3 times more FC housing than personal - across all housing zones... its just crazy.

I read in the past that Squeenix wanted to foster large, vibrant, active FCs.... having 3 times more FC housing than personal doesn't seem to be the best way to promote that goal.

if there are lots of large active FC's on a server, one FC house should be a FC home for dozens to hundreds of players... each personal house is just for one, maybe two players. It seems like they have the allotment backwards.

Having this many FC houses almost promotes tiny isolated FC's as people will likely split from larger FC's just so they can get a house - since a personal one is not nearly as likely to happen

Acquiring a house has been harder and harder since the inception of housing itself. Often looking back at the previous solutions were not that bad. Placard clicking was awful and we shouldn't ever go back to that. Going back to no timers and more wards would have been the best choice on every front. Lottery is just a funnel when a plot opens up after this first wave you will have a few hundred personal players alone trying for that one spot. The new era of housing salt is here.

[elainemarley]

I dont think the lottery is a bad idea really, but I do not understand the decision to have 3 times more FC housing than personal - across all housing zones... its just crazy.

I read in the past that Squeenix wanted to foster large, vibrant, active FCs.... having 3 times more FC housing than personal doesn't seem to be the best way to promote that goal.

if there are lots of large active FC's on a server, one FC house should be a FC home for dozens to hundreds of players... each personal house is just for one, maybe two players. It seems like they have the allotment backwards.

Having this many FC houses almost promotes tiny isolated FC's as people will likely split from larger FC's just so they can get a house - since a personal one is not nearly as likely to happen

Seconded. An especially odd choice given their desire to make the game more solo friendly. As someone who plays solo and avoids FCs like the plague, this very much crushed dreams of having a house. Apparently SE pays attention to the forums tho, so hopefully they'll see the feedback and amend! Here's hoping, at least. (I did see somewhere else that one world started with FC only, and then it shifted? so hopefully this is temporary.) The lottery system, however? That I very much like.

[Drakengarde]

Each fc has their own culture and not everyone will feel at home. saying "here is a big active fc join this and have fun" will not cut it. There are many who DO NOT like huge fc and like something smaller and more tight knit their are all kinds of people in the world with different personalities. To my understanding prior to this most plots in the game in general are personal plots not fc. I have heard 70 percent if not more on primal is owned by personal rather than fc. This new system will allow things to even out with 3/4 being fc wards. In a sense yes lottery made it more fair but also at the same time left the power out of peoples hands to get a plot and instead rely on luck. Was the placard clicking system a bit insane, yes it was but those who were hell bent on getting a house dealt with it and it was like this for 10 years. If they did not do that then they earned gil to buy a fc from someone like the saying goes where there is a will there's a way. Now the people who called for a lottery system will have to lie in that bed and deal with it.

[Jojoya]

Each fc has their own culture and not everyone will feel at home. saying "here is a big active fc join this and have fun" will not cut it. There are many who DO NOT like huge fc and like something smaller and more tight knit their are all kinds of people in the world with different personalities. To my understanding prior to this most plots in the game in general are personal plots not fc. I have heard 70 percent if not more on primal is owned by personal rather than fc. This new system will allow things to even out with 3/4 being fc wards. In a sense yes lottery made it more fair but also at the same time left the power out of peoples hands to get a plot and instead rely on luck. Was the placard clicking system a bit insane, yes it was but those who were hell bent on getting a house dealt with it and it was like this for 10 years. If they did not do that then they earned gil to buy a fc from someone like the saying goes where there is a will there's a way. Now the people who called for a lottery system will have to lie in that bed and deal with it.

The reason there are more personal plots than FC plots is because there has never been much demand from FCs.

We had two ward additions where SE implemented a personal purchase moratorium - 4.2 (number of plots increased by 50%) and 5.1 (plots increased by 16%). All those plots left open for FCs and they did not fill even with many plots being taken by relocators (both FC and personal).

The 4.2 addition saw plots remain vacant even after the personal purchase moratorium was lifted until close to the end of that year on most worlds (and JP worlds still had vacant plots left into the next year).

The 5.1 wards had fewer plots remain vacant (probably because a smaller of number of plots added and a growing player base thanks to the Shadowbringers hype) but there were still a fair number of plots left on most worlds (Balmung is Balmung and a couple of Aether worlds also filled faster if I remember correctly) when the personal purchase moratorium ended. That's when they filled up.

The split is 30/70 because that's how demand has fallen out in practice. I did expect SE to weight ward distribution for FCs higher than 30% (I was expecting 40-50%) but not 75%. Most worlds do not have that many legitimate FCs looking for houses. All SE has done is opened the door for RMT to grab an even greater number of plots despite the lottery. Those who want a personal house are going to be left no option but going through RMT now because SE handed over a load of houses to RMT on a silver platter with this mistake.

If FC was that concerned about making certain actual FCs could get a house, they should have done their research and split the wards on a world by world basis from the start. There's no use reserving 5400 plots for FCs on a world that only has 1000 active FCs with at least 4 members but no house yet. That forces players into leaving their current FCs and forming new ones with the help of friends just to get a house. It lets RMT move in with their swarms of disposable characters to buy up all those houses that could be going to genuine players.

It is idiocy.

I can only hope SE is prepared to actively research all the FCs obtaining houses with suspicious FC masters and membership to slam the door not just on RMT but those who buy from RMT. RMT won't get anywhere if players actively fear they'll lose their accounts. Right now that fear does not exist because SE does nothing.

[Besame]

I dont think the lottery is a bad idea really, but I do not understand the decision to have 3 times more FC housing than personal - across all housing zones... its just crazy.

I read in the past that Squeenix wanted to foster large, vibrant, active FCs.... having 3 times more FC housing than personal doesn't seem to be the best way to promote that goal.

if there are lots of large active FC's on a server, one FC house should be a FC home for dozens to hundreds of players... each personal house is just for one, maybe two players. It seems like they have the allotment backwards.

Having this many FC houses almost promotes tiny isolated FC's as people will likely split from larger FC's just so they can get a house - since a personal one is not nearly as likely to happen

I agree with you. Personally, I only look for a small circle of friends to interact with. If they are available, great, if not, I am happy and capable of hoofing it alone. Every larger FC I tried did not suit me at all so I have my own with just a couple of others right now and it's all good. There is trust and respect here I only provide a FC spot to people that are independent and like-minded. I keep my medium house to be alone and decorate as I choose.

[Drakengarde]

The reason there are more personal plots than FC plots is because there has never been much demand from FCs.

We had two ward additions where SE implemented a personal purchase moratorium - 4.2 (number of plots increased by 50%) and 5.1 (plots increased by 16%). All those plots left open for FCs and they did not fill even with many plots being taken by relocators (both FC and personal).

The 4.2 addition saw plots remain vacant even after the personal purchase moratorium was lifted until close to the end of that year on most worlds (and JP worlds still had vacant plots left into the next year).

The 5.1 wards had fewer plots remain vacant (probably because a smaller of number of plots added and a growing player base thanks to the Shadowbringers hype) but there were still a fair number of plots left on most worlds (Balmung is Balmung and a couple of Aether worlds also filled faster if I remember correctly) when the personal purchase moratorium ended. That's when they filled up.

The split is 30/70 because that's how demand has fallen out in practice. I did expect SE to weight ward distribution for FCs higher than 30% (I was expecting 40-50%) but not 75%. Most worlds do not have that many legitimate FCs looking for houses. All SE has done is opened the door for RMT to grab an even greater number of plots despite the lottery. Those who want a personal house are going to be left no option but going through RMT now because SE handed over a load of houses to RMT on a silver platter with this mistake.

If FC was that concerned about making certain actual FCs could get a house, they should have done their research and split the wards on a world by world basis from the start. There's no use reserving 5400 plots for FCs on a world that only has 1000 active FCs with at least 4 members but no house yet. That forces players into leaving their current FCs and forming new ones with the help of friends just to get a house. It lets RMT move in with their swarms of disposable characters to buy up all those houses that could be going to genuine players.

It is idiocy.

I can only hope SE is prepared to actively research all the FCs obtaining houses with suspicious FC masters and membership to slam the door not just on RMT but those who buy from RMT. RMT won't get anywhere if players actively fear they'll lose their accounts. Right now that fear does not exist because SE does nothing.

People do get plenty of houses legit ways by earning gil through crafting, gambling, venues, etc There is one popular crafter I know of that has billions of gil and has been around since ARR from the very beginning. People enjoy getting fc houses for different reasons. Some love to decorate, some like having beautiful locations, others may enjoy doing the workshops everyone is different. And the new implementation of the 30 day fc leadership transfer will curb a great majority of plot resell

[Hellstorm]

I can tell you as a person who has had 6 different houses 2 of them large plots in prime locations Shiro and lavender on ps4. This system is not a better system. You think your odds are better, but they are not because each time you enter a lotto your odds reset. Unlike the old mad dash system, you were at least likely to get a small house it may be in a bad location, but you get your foot in the door. Then you wait your time till the next time plots come open when you can trade up and get a bigger and better location however that no longer an option now even to relocate your odds are reset.

[Jojoya]

People do get plenty of houses legit ways by earning gil through crafting, gambling, venues, etc There is one popular crafter I know of that has billions of gil and has been around since ARR from the very beginning. People enjoy getting fc houses for different reasons. Some love to decorate, some like having beautiful locations, others may enjoy doing the workshops everyone is different. And the new implementation of the 30 day fc leadership transfer will curb a great majority of plot resell

I'm not referring to actual players who use houses in ways intended and allowed by SE.

I'm talking about resellers. That is not allowed by SE.

The 30 day wait before FC Master can be transferred is annoyance, not something that will put a dent into reselling. The resellers had already planned to just delete the characters with FC Master to force the transfer to a member with less than 30 days (until it was discovered today that will autodisband the FC). They're not going to have a problem with leaving that character idle until the 30 days has passed. It might mean one less character active on that specific account but it doesn't stop them from purchasing on their other accounts, nor from transferring FC Master between characters on various account as long as their 30 day period had passed (since they have to wait the 30 days regardless to attempt the lottery). There's one possible change to FC purchases listed in the Lodestone Housing Guide that might be a big hindrance to RMT but considering there's also directly conflicting information on the same page of the guide, it's hard to know which is accurate.

The real obstacle to RMT at this point is the lottery. The more they need to compete against other FCs, the smaller their chances of winning. On the other hand, that also means the smaller the chances that legitimate FCs will win as well since that competition only appears in the absence of housing. Since SE saw fit to make sure there's an abundance of FC plots available on most worlds for the time being, RMT is in a good position to pick up a fair number.

[DeNada]

My only hope now is that SE will follow up with their promises to review the plot allocation on a patch to patch basis.

Hopefully, they'll do their first review and adjust the plot allocation on patch 6.11 which is 2 weeks later. Any later than that, RMT flippers and house hoarders would have enough preparation to stock up enough gil and characters to bypass the 30 days restrictions and it would be too late for the game to recover.