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  1. #761
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    This is a bit of an extreme lol. One is typically a treatment for a life threatening disease, the other is a term for a fictional video game race. If someone is feeling insulted because someone makes a joke of their video game character…idk what to say lol.
    A lot of people feel a connection to their character. Doesn't really give you the right to poke fun at that either, friend o3o
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  2. #762
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    A lot of people feel a connection to their character. Doesn't really give you the right to poke fun at that either, friend o3o
    From what I've seen from many players, they think they ARE their character.
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  3. #763
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Jeez, Yoshi-P should play as a Hrothgar for a while just so he can se how bad it is.

    If you check patch notes, you see lot's of stuff were changed on old dungeons, I bet that when they were getting trust system up they thought: "Yeah, this is bad, let's fix it "
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  4. #764
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    From what I've seen from many players, they think they ARE their character.
    Escapism at its finest! I personally love to make up lore for my character and diving into his lore makes me care about him even more
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  5. #765
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    This is a bit of an extreme lol. One is typically a treatment for a life threatening disease, the other is a term for a fictional video game race. If someone is feeling insulted because someone makes a joke of their video game character…idk what to say lol.
    I just love my character, as well as the Hrothgar race in general. They're cool, they're different, their lore imply regality and chivalry despite... moments... and their animations are a mix of feral with gentle giant.

    And it feels really bad that I can't fully enjoy it as other races can. It feels bad that I can't fully customize it like others can theirs. It feels bad knowing the only way to do that is to resort to break the Terms of Service of the game I'm otherwise enjoying very much.

    It feels bad knowing that no matter how hard we ask for it, changes aren't coming or if they are, they're delayed and low-effort. Because of this perceived notion that we're just 2%. Which I'm sorry but... eff off? 2% sure, but go on the Eorzea Census website. Hrothgar are considerably numerous when it comes to players that have reached endgame. We actually care about playing this game, same as you.

    And it also feels bad having some particularly malicious comments from the rest of the playerbase just because this is who I like playing and not Lalafell, Hyur, Miqo'te or what have you. And I do mean downright malicious, not the usual "lol lalafell are food" comments. Because that isn't about character identity, it's just getting crap for liking something others don't. "Oh but you're furries", yeah and you're some saint for playing Hyur <,<

    Meaning that yes, we get defensive and yes we get this upset.

    So what if other people feel bad about a character the devs encourage to feel connected to? I've had a Miqo'te friend tell me that she finds her character an idealized version of her. More than an avatar, it was a model that represented her. Some people enjoy their characters as extensions of themselves, where they pour effort and personality into something that they find characterizes them. And some use their character to represent them online. I'm sure plenty of you also have quirks.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 04-11-2022 at 03:53 AM.

  6. #766
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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Mike Arklight
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balmung_Griffin View Post
    Jeez, Yoshi-P should play as a Hrothgar for a while just so he can se how bad it is.

    If you check patch notes, you see lot's of stuff were changed on old dungeons, I bet that when they were getting trust system up they thought: "Yeah, this is bad, let's fix it "
    don't steal the healer forum quotes ,we called dibs first but we can call it even and make him play a Hrothgar healer with 2b hair to really feel how bad they are treated ^^.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 04-11-2022 at 04:19 AM.

  7. #767
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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Mike Arklight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I just love my character, as well as the Hrothgar race in general. They're cool, they're different, their lore imply regality and chivalry despite... moments... and their animations are a mix of feral with gentle giant.

    And it feels really bad that I can't fully enjoy it as other races can. It feels bad that I can't fully customize it like others can theirs. It feels bad knowing the only way to do that is to resort to break the Terms of Service of the game I'm otherwise enjoying very much.

    It feels bad knowing that no matter how hard we ask for it, changes aren't coming or if they are, they're delayed and low-effort. Because of this perceived notion that we're just 2%. Which I'm sorry but... eff off? 2% sure, but go on the Eorzea Census website. Hrothgar are considerably numerous when it comes to players that have reached endgame. We actually care about playing this game, same as you.

    And it also feels bad having some particularly malicious comments from the rest of the playerbase just because this is who I like playing and not Lalafell, Hyur, Miqo'te or what have you. And I do mean downright malicious, not the usual "lol lalafell are food" comments. Because that isn't about character identity, it's just getting crap for liking something others don't. "Oh but you're furries", yeah and you're some saint for playing Hyur <,<

    Meaning that yes, we get defensive and yes we get this upset.

    So what if other people feel bad about a character the devs encourage to feel connected to? I've had a Miqo'te friend tell me that she finds her character an idealized version of her. More than an avatar, it was a model that represented her. Some people enjoy their characters as extensions of themselves, where they pour effort and personality into something that they find characterizes them. And some use their character to represent them online. I'm sure plenty of you also have quirks.
    i said it before and i will say it again, you guys deserved better implementation of your race.
    you should be able to change your char without fantasia and have hairstyles properly fit to your models.
    for 4+ years of hairstyles being in the work, any justification to those horrible wigs that cut off your ears or any such work is literally bending your mind to reality to how horrible and 0 work been done at all there.
    some hairstyles may hide features such as ears but those hairstyles are abomination and are half assed work that yoshi-p need to be ashamed of showing as a final results especially since its already implementer to fit every other race perfectly.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 04-11-2022 at 04:29 AM.

  8. #768
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    Pip_Chick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    Earless earless. When I insult hrothgar wearing wigs its mostly directed at yoshida/zodiark-san. How can he okay a half baked race of lion dudes. Everydat I'm losing hope for femhroths being good.
    Keep strong Brotha/Sista! They will be here and they will be amazing!
    Anyway I found a stack of bags full of copium in my basement, anyone want some?
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  9. #769
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Keep strong Brotha/Sista! They will be here and they will be amazing!
    Anyway I found a stack of bags full of copium in my basement, anyone want some?
    no ty i am done with copium after seeing healer changes in EW and i think after the nin/sam changes and the Hrothgar hairstyles i will never even think of having copium again.
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  10. #770
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    Evon Merrowgry
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    [...]
    Beautifully said.

    If it's no 150% joke character, or something we are totally diconnected to, we always put something of our personality into them. But even the jokes are not totally away from that tiny fact.
    It always hurts of people counter speak against our choices and stories (rp or not) we made around our characters, starting from little maybe laughable stings, to really bad feelings coming up.
    The stronger with getting denied from possibilities, which are blocked by unecessary set limitations, and never working on them. *stares at squeenix*

    And it's annoying we cannot express all the details possible.
    With that character, I wanted Style 4 on Face 4 for longer all official as it let look him older, but Squeenix says "Nah" for whatever reason. Or Hair 3 on the lion face to display that he's through a lot of stuff. But still, he's only allowed to run around like fresh on the morning. All I can do without even changing the face - and through real money - as well, is using the 60 characters strong search text "think of him having braids", "imagine him tousle-haired". Biggest deal ever!
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