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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive.
    You're talking to someone who gathers on a near pathological level. Is that not repetitive?

    You're just making excuses for SE.

    There are other games that have actual crafting GAMES. They're all different, require skill, and even team work, and are engaging activities. In fact they're addictive and I have to put limits on how much I craft because time flies when you're having fun. This is a game I actually return to when I'm bored with FFXIV... and one of the reasons is the awesome crafting.

    Spam-enter is not a game.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 03-13-2012 at 04:23 AM.

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    I like it the way it is. I'm not sure most people care for it but I find it a lot more enjoyable than crafting I've done in other games. I'd like to see it have a far bigger market in terms of creating and selling high-level gear though. Right now it's really been overtaken by stuff dropped from NM's.

    It's also less useful because leveling is entirely too fast now. There's no point in buying new gear every few levels when you can get 10+ levels in one day. Personally I'd like to see more level 20-30, 40-50 NM's that drop items for creating powerful gear/weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Nope. Why? can you get 2k minimum per synth? (without any additional skills/scroll/etc boosting xp)
    I get 1600xp/synth with little effort No Manual, No Rested XP, just Qual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    2K+ easy with scrolls
    1k+ easy without

    close enough, they sped it up a ton

    This is also from the prespective of a level 50 crafter though. also is that Leve-crafting or free-crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive. The current 1.21 crafting is Perfect the way it is. The Skills need to be adjusted for the new system and we need a recipe book, but your not going to make a more "fun" mini game for crafting. Any mini game gets boring when it is the only thing you can do. Crafting is and always will be a Niche part of an MMO. You like it or you don't. The difference for Final Fantasy over any other MMO is people who Already Like Crafting actually get to craft and not just watch the game do it for them.

    The only solution to the crafting is Boring and Repetitive problem is Content.
    Don't tell me what I wont like. I have played plenty of MMO's with crafting systems I have really enjoyed, FF XIV just isn't one of those, nobody here used the word repetitive anyway, we said slow and boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    More EXP doesn't break the crushing boredom though.

    After 30 mnutes I wanted to gouge my eyes out.
    also by asking for more exp per your asking for much steeper exp requirements when the cap is raised

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    You're talking to someone who gathers on a near pathological level. Is that not repetitive?

    You're just making excuses for SE.

    There are other games that have actual crafting GAMES. They're all different require skill and even team work and are engaging activities.

    Spam-enter is not a game.
    If your Spamming enter to craft now you are doing it Very wrong and may well be the worst and least productive crafter in the game.

    If you actually pay attention and put in a little effort you will double your XP and have fun. Maybe you should stop talking about things you know nothing about and stop AFK crafting. +
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    This is also from the prespective of a level 50 crafter though. also is that Leve-crafting or free-crafting.
    both, and thats not from my prespective but from shellmates who are leveling, just passing on what they are telling me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    The People in this thread who say Crafting is Dull and Tedious will never be satisfied by any crafting system. It is impossible to make a Crafting System that is not Repetitive. The current 1.21 crafting is Perfect the way it is. The Skills need to be adjusted for the new system and we need a recipe book, but your not going to make a more "fun" mini game for crafting. Any mini game gets boring when it is the only thing you can do. Crafting is and always will be a Niche part of an MMO. You like it or you don't. The difference for Final Fantasy over any other MMO is people who Already Like Crafting actually get to craft and not just watch the game do it for them.

    The only solution to the crafting is Boring and Repetitive problem is Content.
    As somebody said earlier in the thread, some sort of puzzle game would do it for me. Something like a sliding puzzle would work. The less moves, the higher the quality. If you make too many moves, your synth would fail. The puzzle could be more complex the farther you are from the optimal level for the synth.

    something like this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_puzzle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    Don't tell me what I wont like. I have played plenty of MMO's with crafting systems I have really enjoyed, FF XIV just isn't one of those, nobody here used the word repetitive anyway, we said slow and boring.
    Name Two other MMOs that have a crafting system that actually requires the User to actually craft the items.

    They do not exsist.

    FFXIV is the only MMO that is actually trying to turn crafting into a Part of the game and not just a list you click on. When your the first one to put any real effort in to something, it takes time to fine tune it.

    No one in this forum can say that crafting is moving in the wrong direction. You would lose all credibility.

    It is now faster, simpler, and more engaging. How many Patches did it take to fix the combat system? 8?
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