Discrepency Between Male/Female Clothing/Emotes in Regards to Performance

[Izar_Chillen]

Hi, never been one for forum posing but this genuinely got on my nerves so much.

Please let us pick between the male/female versions of clothing. I spent 500 gil on the Non La hat while I had a male character, spent $10 on fantasia, and I'm greatly disappointed to find that what existed as a hat that changed full color when dyed, hung over my eyes, and sat perfectly normally on my head now has an additional bow and BELL, sits sideways, doesn't cover the eyes, AND doesn't dye fully so it can't even match outfits anymore. It took ADDITIONAL resources to make how excessive this hat is compared to the male version and it looks absolutely ridiculous trying to make any neutral outfit with it.

It's a running trend that males get default gear and the moment a female is wearing it, it turns extremely performative and downright ugly in some cases and I'm tired of it. Would it be that hard to make two different hat versions? Surely it can't be harder than what it takes to make the male/female versions fit every race by themselves.

While I'm at it, I may as well suggest coding male/female emotes as gender neutral for the same reason? The Bee's Knees dance is extremely performative on females but is a fun dad dance on men, nothing sexualized about it. It'd be great if I could sit normally as a female mito'qe without it feeling like my knees are shattering just looking at their poses, as well. Or how the male mito'qe stretch emote is them actually getting ready for something while it's a cute wake-up stretch with a moan on the females.

Sometimes women want to look cool without being locked out of their own sex in video games to access those options. Elephant in the room is femininity itself is a performance forced onto females which is why this is so normalized (and why multiple threads state that most feminine clothing looks dumb on male characters, because it's impractical dress up), but I'm not asking FFXIV devs to address this at all. I just want a normal looking Non La without the bells and whistles ):

Please consider these issues. They already moved some hyper sexualized clothing so they can be worn by men, swing the pendulum the other way.

Your plight is a fine example of why the modding scene has become huge on PC

Not only can it offer vastly improved fidelity (increased details) of SqE made clothing/gear at a cost of no performance hit at all, it offers a way to improve on many of the faults that the gear has in the game , as an example viera can wear many many hats from a single mod ( not all as its a work in progress)

That issue you state about a difference in FM to ML hats positioning , thats something that may already be fixed by a mod , if not it could be something to request from a modder that is an expert in gear upscaling and adjusting , like Redmagos on nexus mods , the superb Bibo+ and TnF Gen 3 gear upscaler and redesigner (one of many great gear designers the mod scene has for ff14)

[Izar_Chillen]

I guess if you ignore all the outfits men get to wear that "sexualize" them, then sure


Last I checked, men get to have bare chests, but women have to wear tops!

Only due to the age rating of the game . The Conan MMO (rated mature) let them swing in the air if u wanted to

[Doc_Seraph]

Everything swings in Limsa kupo <3

[Caurcas]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

[DPZ2]

Only due to the age rating of the game . The Conan MMO (rated mature) let them swing in the air if u wanted to

Anyone who stayed unclothed in Conan Exiles deserved the death that comes from not putting on armor. I never saw the attraction of spending all that time carefully decking your character out, only to cover it all up so you don't die as quickly.

[Carmabis]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

Idk, I think discussing how completely casual articles of clothing are made into completely different garments, usually feminized or sexualized, the moment theyre put on a female rather than a male is much ado about something. Just depends on if you consider that something important or not, which it's not unexpected that some people wouldn't.

[Illmaeran]

LOL what came first, the chicken or the egg....we may never know..

The rooster, clearly.

Everyone swings in Limsa kupo <3

Fixed that for you.

[Raoabolic]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

It pretty much is considering database space is an issue for this game. Why make two different item sets for the same piece of gear when you can just have the one and it change to fit the race/sex. It's just easier from a programming prospective.

[einschwartz]

There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

[Fland]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

The expeditioner's pantalettes (top right) can be worn by males now.
I can finally create my MCH Larry Croft glam.