Discrepency Between Male/Female Clothing/Emotes in Regards to Performance

[Thi]

I find it strange that there is a bunch of complaints about female leg slots becoming skirts and wanting more pants. I feel like 90% of the leg gear in this game is ugly pants already and skirt options are pretty rare.

[Carmabis]

I find it strange that there is a bunch of complaints about female leg slots becoming skirts and wanting more pants. I feel like 90% of the leg gear in this game is ugly pants already and skirt options are pretty rare.

I think it's more of a complaint about the lack of choice when an article of clothing on men and in the thumbnail is undebatably a pair of pants, but the moment a female puts it on, it transforms into a mini-skirt. This is the issue with the Non La. It looks like the "male" version (aka default) in the thumbnail, yet completely changes in style and color when a female is wearing it. Why?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Co-signed. I spent an hour googling why my Cat-Boy can't do the Pose of just relaxing with his hands behind his head like Cat-Girls. I thought maybe it was a quest reward or Mog Shop emote and was driving myself crazy. Was surprised to hear it was female only.

There are also some gloves that are female only that I thought would look good on my Dancer. Male Dancer lvl 60 armor has similar straps but they are part of the Chest piece, so not sure why guys can't wear a strapped glove...super gender-neutral piece of clothing to begin with.

I do understand why certain attire is gendered - like swimsuits. I'm sure some people would find a Roe in a bikini amusing but a topless female for male swimsuits is probably a no-go.

I am content enough with "sexy" options for male characters - they can be found if you look for them from certain clothing and dungeon sets. Though older examples like the Dragoon Artifact armor having skin windows for females only is a bit glaring.

[Jennah]

So, I know it's not your main point, but - you appear to be complaining about wasting 500 gil. With a level 90 character. What.

[Carmabis]

So, I know it's not your main point, but - you appear to be complaining about wasting 500 gil. With a level 90 character. What.

I may or may not be entirely funded by someone who sells onions because I've only been playing this game for a few months and absolutely suck at any level of gold income but if i put 500 gil i meant 500k gil which i know still isn't a lot to some players but that was like half my budget at the time LMAO

[ZephyrMenodora]

I may or may not be entirely funded by someone who sells onions because I've only been playing this game for a few months and absolutely suck at any level of gold income but if i put 500 gil i meant 500k gil which i know still isn't a lot to some players but that was like half my budget at the time LMAO

As someone who keeps buying True-White dyes for 500K gil, and then applying them to incorrect items or glamor plate slots instead of items themselves, I feel the pain of wasting 500K haha.

[Izar_Chillen]

Hi, never been one for forum posing but this genuinely got on my nerves so much.

Please let us pick between the male/female versions of clothing. I spent 500 gil on the Non La hat while I had a male character, spent $10 on fantasia, and I'm greatly disappointed to find that what existed as a hat that changed full color when dyed, hung over my eyes, and sat perfectly normally on my head now has an additional bow and BELL, sits sideways, doesn't cover the eyes, AND doesn't dye fully so it can't even match outfits anymore. It took ADDITIONAL resources to make how excessive this hat is compared to the male version and it looks absolutely ridiculous trying to make any neutral outfit with it.

It's a running trend that males get default gear and the moment a female is wearing it, it turns extremely performative and downright ugly in some cases and I'm tired of it. Would it be that hard to make two different hat versions? Surely it can't be harder than what it takes to make the male/female versions fit every race by themselves.

While I'm at it, I may as well suggest coding male/female emotes as gender neutral for the same reason? The Bee's Knees dance is extremely performative on females but is a fun dad dance on men, nothing sexualized about it. It'd be great if I could sit normally as a female mito'qe without it feeling like my knees are shattering just looking at their poses, as well. Or how the male mito'qe stretch emote is them actually getting ready for something while it's a cute wake-up stretch with a moan on the females.

Sometimes women want to look cool without being locked out of their own sex in video games to access those options. Elephant in the room is femininity itself is a performance forced onto females which is why this is so normalized (and why multiple threads state that most feminine clothing looks dumb on male characters, because it's impractical dress up), but I'm not asking FFXIV devs to address this at all. I just want a normal looking Non La without the bells and whistles ):

Please consider these issues. They already moved some hyper sexualized clothing so they can be worn by men, swing the pendulum the other way.

Your plight is a fine example of why the modding scene has become huge on PC

Not only can it offer vastly improved fidelity (increased details) of SqE made clothing/gear at a cost of no performance hit at all, it offers a way to improve on many of the faults that the gear has in the game , as an example viera can wear many many hats from a single mod ( not all as its a work in progress)

That issue you state about a difference in FM to ML hats positioning , thats something that may already be fixed by a mod , if not it could be something to request from a modder that is an expert in gear upscaling and adjusting , like Redmagos on nexus mods , the superb Bibo+ and TnF Gen 3 gear upscaler and redesigner (one of many great gear designers the mod scene has for ff14)

[Caurcas]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

[Carmabis]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

Idk, I think discussing how completely casual articles of clothing are made into completely different garments, usually feminized or sexualized, the moment theyre put on a female rather than a male is much ado about something. Just depends on if you consider that something important or not, which it's not unexpected that some people wouldn't.

[Raoabolic]

This seems like much ado about nothing.

It pretty much is considering database space is an issue for this game. Why make two different item sets for the same piece of gear when you can just have the one and it change to fit the race/sex. It's just easier from a programming prospective.