Discrepency Between Male/Female Clothing/Emotes in Regards to Performance

[MsQi]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

Most of these change with gender. But I know the top middle is two different items, one for female, one for male. Personally I think they should all be separate items, but equitable by all. Yeah I know that's a lot of work.

...men aren't expected to perform.

um... ok

[Carmabis]

um... ok

? Do you have another reason as to why men somehow are never given a mini-skirt/short-shorts variation of an outfit while the women get a practical pants option? I'll wait.

[Theodric]

? Do you have another reason as to why men somehow are never given a mini-skirt/short-shorts variation of an outfit while the women get a practical pants option? I'll wait.

Perhaps it has something to do with the simple fact that most men don't want to wear feminine clothing in general.

The FFXIV community, in particular, also has a habit of greatly exaggerating the demand and popularity of niche aesthetics.

[MsQi]

? Do you have another reason as to why men somehow are never given a mini-skirt/short-shorts variation of an outfit while the women get a practical pants option? I'll wait.

It's because of cultural norms and what is popularly considered attractive for men vs women. I don't know what your hangup is on "performance".

[Lukha]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

Oooh this is a nice comparison shot. I've been broken-hearted ever since they released the Arachne set and I realized the culottes just turned into ugly puffy pants on guys. At this point I would literally pay extra for just one set of shorts + thigh-highs that guys could wear; I've been waiting since ARR and they keep breaking my heart every few patches with new gear that changes like this.

multiple feminine outfits being opened up for men but little to no comparison of male outfits for women.

The reason it's mostly been female-only outfits being opened up for men to use is because there are comparatively few male-only outfits that women can't wear, and the majority of items being unlocked have thus far been cases where items were released with a female-only variant and a unisex variant (see the Spring/Sailor sets, Thavnarian sets, the Bunny/Gambler sets, and so-on for examples), resulting in female characters getting TWO new outfits for each one males got.

They HAVE been making progress on unlocking those few items female characters can't wear as well, though (See the Wedding sets, the Maid/Butler sets, the Expeditioner's set, the High House sets for examples), even though, unlike the previous examples, these were all cases where at least everyone got the same amount of new stuff. This isn't even touching on the many, many times they've just straight-up released one female-only set without anything for males.

So obviously both sides of the problem are being worked on, as they should, because ultimately everyone should have access to ALL the cool things and all the options; just don't be surprised if they focus a bit more on fixing glamours for male characters than female characters, since male glamour has basically been limping along with two broken legs and a missing hand since ARR while female glamour has the equivalent of a skinned knee.

Personally I'm really hoping they'll add a toggle for at least some of the gear that has drastic changes between M/F models someday, but I don't expect it at least until they're done fixing most of the glamour-only gear.

[Iscah]

Oooh this is a nice comparison shot. I've been broken-hearted ever since they released the Arachne set and I realized the culottes just turned into ugly puffy pants on guys.

While I agree they should be separate items we can choose between, I really like the male Arachne/Pagos culottes, though annoyingly they don't always quite connect to knee-length boots.

[CCheshire]

Agreed, I feel like it's one of the reasons I switched from female characters to male viera now. I'm just so tired of every pair of pants ending up as skirts or short shorts. Also, there are some mog station items like the school uniform that have both options for unisex but I'll keep waiting for it if anything changes in the future.

[Rhysati]

The Bee's Knees dance is extremely performative on females but is a fun dad dance on men, nothing sexualized about it.

Come on now...the dance is from a literal strip club in Eulmore. Are you really complaining that it's 'performative'? It's what the stage dancers are doing to, you know, perform.

[ZedxKayn]

Come on now...the dance is from a literal strip club in Eulmore. Are you really complaining that it's 'performative'? It's what the stage dancers are doing to, you know, perform.

Whether this was OP's intent or not, I see this as a call to make the male bee's knees more sexual :P

[Carmabis]

Weird how its only females that are the ones with the sexualized version. There must be some over-arching mindset that influenced the decision to have the females perform sexually and the men casually.