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  1. #81
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carmabis View Post
    Okay, why? Why is that the cultural norm? Why are hyper-sexualized/performative outfits considered more attractive on women than men? Why is it more attractive for men to be practical? Why is it so normal to the point where, you saw the screenshot, 5+ pants turn into short-shorts the moment a female is wearing them when the pants would look COMPLETELY normal on women characters as well? The shorts are not the default design. Why? Because they look "cuter"? Why is the default female outfit "cute" or "sexy"?
    Why, why why. Maybe you should study the last few thousand years of human history. I didn't create society, I didn't even say I agreed with it. Outfits don't perform, people do. Tell me why the default male outfit is cute or sexy?
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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  2. #82
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    Lukha's Avatar
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

    Oooh this is a nice comparison shot. I've been broken-hearted ever since they released the Arachne set and I realized the culottes just turned into ugly puffy pants on guys. At this point I would literally pay extra for just one set of shorts + thigh-highs that guys could wear; I've been waiting since ARR and they keep breaking my heart every few patches with new gear that changes like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carmabis View Post
    multiple feminine outfits being opened up for men but little to no comparison of male outfits for women.
    The reason it's mostly been female-only outfits being opened up for men to use is because there are comparatively few male-only outfits that women can't wear, and the majority of items being unlocked have thus far been cases where items were released with a female-only variant and a unisex variant (see the Spring/Sailor sets, Thavnarian sets, the Bunny/Gambler sets, and so-on for examples), resulting in female characters getting TWO new outfits for each one males got.

    They HAVE been making progress on unlocking those few items female characters can't wear as well, though (See the Wedding sets, the Maid/Butler sets, the Expeditioner's set, the High House sets for examples), even though, unlike the previous examples, these were all cases where at least everyone got the same amount of new stuff. This isn't even touching on the many, many times they've just straight-up released one female-only set without anything for males.

    So obviously both sides of the problem are being worked on, as they should, because ultimately everyone should have access to ALL the cool things and all the options; just don't be surprised if they focus a bit more on fixing glamours for male characters than female characters, since male glamour has basically been limping along with two broken legs and a missing hand since ARR while female glamour has the equivalent of a skinned knee.

    Personally I'm really hoping they'll add a toggle for at least some of the gear that has drastic changes between M/F models someday, but I don't expect it at least until they're done fixing most of the glamour-only gear.
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    Last edited by Lukha; 03-18-2022 at 05:57 PM.

  3. #83
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    Oooh this is a nice comparison shot. I've been broken-hearted ever since they released the Arachne set and I realized the culottes just turned into ugly puffy pants on guys.
    While I agree they should be separate items we can choose between, I really like the male Arachne/Pagos culottes, though annoyingly they don't always quite connect to knee-length boots.
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  4. #84
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    Kupo, we do not see any genitalia on anybody in game. I don't see a huge reason for the lock on attire kupo <3 Think about it kupo, and you can't use the excuse of "female chests" because many many many males have "mewbs" let us be real lol <3 kupo

    Perhaps the naked models have certain areas of 'bulge' but that could be fixed.

    ...Moogle Mewbs kupo hahaha
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    Last edited by Doc_Seraph; 03-18-2022 at 11:11 PM.

  5. #85
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    Trachynwyda Fyreynwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_Seraph View Post
    males have "mewbs" let us be real lol <3 kupo

    Perhaps the naked models have certain areas of 'bulge' but that could be fixed.
    Mewbs and Bulge, yep, it's a HeRoe post!
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Mewbs and Bulge, yep, it's a HeRoe post!
    Dat is da way kupo <3 lol
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    Kupo!

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