Discrepency Between Male/Female Clothing/Emotes in Regards to Performance

[Carmabis]

Hi, never been one for forum posing but this genuinely got on my nerves so much.

Please let us pick between the male/female versions of clothing. I spent 500 gil on the Non La hat while I had a male character, spent $10 on fantasia, and I'm greatly disappointed to find that what existed as a hat that changed full color when dyed, hung over my eyes, and sat perfectly normally on my head now has an additional bow and BELL, sits sideways, doesn't cover the eyes, AND doesn't dye fully so it can't even match outfits anymore. It took ADDITIONAL resources to make how excessive this hat is compared to the male version and it looks absolutely ridiculous trying to make any neutral outfit with it.

It's a running trend that males get default gear and the moment a female is wearing it, it turns extremely performative and downright ugly in some cases and I'm tired of it. Would it be that hard to make two different hat versions? Surely it can't be harder than what it takes to make the male/female versions fit every race by themselves.

While I'm at it, I may as well suggest coding male/female emotes as gender neutral for the same reason? The Bee's Knees dance is extremely performative on females but is a fun dad dance on men, nothing sexualized about it. It'd be great if I could sit normally as a female mito'qe without it feeling like my knees are shattering just looking at their poses, as well. Or how the male mito'qe stretch emote is them actually getting ready for something while it's a cute wake-up stretch with a moan on the females.

Sometimes women want to look cool without being locked out of their own sex in video games to access those options. Elephant in the room is femininity itself is a performance forced onto females which is why this is so normalized (and why multiple threads state that most feminine clothing looks dumb on male characters, because it's impractical dress up), but I'm not asking FFXIV devs to address this at all. I just want a normal looking Non La without the bells and whistles ):

Please consider these issues. They already moved some hyper sexualized clothing so they can be worn by men, swing the pendulum the other way.

[MiaShino]

There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

Ohhhh also kinda wish I could hang my sword over the shoulder too. It is already most silly seeing my lala swinging about one sword twice their size who cares if I sling the sword over the shoulder..

[Carmabis]

There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

Ohhhh also kinda wish I could hang my sword over the shoulder too. It is already most silly seeing my lala swinging about one sword twice their size who cares if I sling the sword over the shoulder..

The sage gear got to me on this. It looks so comfy on my guy, then bam, it's suddenly a mini-skirt like omg...why...I forgot being female naturally meant I must prefer skirts.

[Erendis]

The sage gear got to me on this. It looks so comfy on my guy, then bam, it's suddenly a mini-skirt like omg...why...I forgot being female naturally meant I must prefer skirts.

Hate this so much. Barely have any normal looking pants...

[einschwartz]

There are many many male only shorts. Shorts! How the heck am I unable to wear certain shorts!? Really I just wish for several nice pairs of shorts because I happen to like wearing those but nooooooo only skirts for you!

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

[Fland]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

The expeditioner's pantalettes (top right) can be worn by males now.
I can finally create my MCH Larry Croft glam.

[Illmaeran]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

Do you have a list of what the different items are? I need some of those in my life.

[Iscah]

Do you have a list of what the different items are? I need some of those in my life.

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4 5 6
7 8 9

1. Skallic bottoms of aiming
2. Makai (various) – these are part of the Garo collaboration sets and currently not available in the game.
3. Expeditioner's pantalettes/kecks
4. Skallic bottoms of striking
5. Spring bottoms
6. Pagos culottes / Rainbow culottes of striking – also shared model (in different colours) with Arachne culottes of casting/healing
7. Type-53 bottoms of casting/healing
8. Gryphonskin pantalettes / Uraeus breeches
9. Spriggan bottoms

[CCheshire]

There are some female shorts that I wish I could wear as male. So the feeling is mutual!

Finally, someone understands the suffering of a male character who lacks all the cute shorts for no reason at all.

[Carmabis]

Finally, someone understands the suffering of a male character who lacks all the cute shorts for no reason at all.

It's not no reason at all, it's distinctly because yes theyre cute, but they're performative and men aren't expected to perform. I love and agree that yes everyone should get options but y'all are really digressing from the point that they ALREADY allowed males in the game to wear multiple female-only hyper-sexualized outfits. My point was distinctly about single item's having female versions that are blatantly different that what the item is advertised specifically because the character is female. And most of these changes are to show off more skin and become way more impractical. I'm asking that this option be switched specifically because its enforcing the sexist idea that women inherently want to perform and sexualize themselves, yet they don't have a choice when that's all theyre given.

I get wanting cute shorts as a male character, I do. But "wanting" to have fun decorating yourself (when theyve already expanded those options, anyways, compared to what they've now allowed females to wear) and adding this to a post where this decoration is FORCED onto a sex and clearly multiple people have an issue with this takes away the point of it a bit.

Wanting the same performative outfits forced onto women isn't the same as not wanting to be forced into those performative outfits. In some cases, it can even normalize forcing women into them because if so many men want them, clearly there's nothing sexist about them existing—aka, as I'll say again, multiple feminine outfits being opened up for men but little to no comparison of male outfits for women.