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But as part of the overall picture relentlessly pushing that framing of Venat on us? Yes, it was tiresome, and I wasn't much into the "oh, you scamp" tone when Emet noted how very deeply Venat had screwed him over in particular. I was glad, at least, he fairly brusquely flipped Hydaelyn off and rejected her "apology" to him altogether.
The way I saw that is that Hades was trying to tell the WoL what they needed to hear at the time and that's withholding his own judgement on Venat. His weird statement that included the title of his own theme just solidifies his attitude. He is justifiably angry and rejecting her "apology" was just the icing on the cake.

that being said, I am extremely glad that Yoshida doesn't want the characters to be reincarnated. I don't like the whole "spiritual successor" as it feels extremely cheap. If we are going to have characters like a previous character, then use the character.

And again, though I've finally understood Venat (thanks Brinne) I still hate the scions. I realized that other than Estinien, the scions are generally privileged, all come from sharlayan and I don't feel should represent humanity in the game. The twins even come from a rich family. Estinien literally walked in the shoes of his enemy and got to know him and shared his pain. The most important thing is we got to see that and we were there with him.G'raha Tia's story was only in writing and we don't even know how long he stayed in the calamity world before he was shipped off to the past. We don't see it, we are just told, this happens.

And since Fandaniel was brought up again recently...he's my second favorite character, or could have been if Hermes was just a bit different. I honestly thought the direction they were going for with him was him being against how society functions to make the people what they are. Someone who wanted the world to burn and change the status quo. I almost got that, and when I got to Elpis I thought it would still be the case, that he was just hiding his feelings. Then I saw him dangling fro ma tree branch and I almost said aloud "this is Fandaniel??". His angle about the treatment of life did not work for me. I find it especially ironic that we failed his question and he got as bad a death as Venat, while Hades and friend got a very dodgy explanation by Yoshida and they're both still there.

I still like Fandaniel though and he's been in some of the fumiest scenes in the game, which makes me ask, was the dinner scene supposed to be funny? Is Square Enix just good at making unintentionally funny scenes. I found Horsefart's death extremely goofy and I have seen multiple streamers laugh at cabbage kicking.