What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Lauront]

A while ago this thread was suddenly brigaded by a bunch of Venat defenders and I heard it was because someone had posted the link in one of their Discords. :P

Those who frequented the lore forum for some time might also have noted similar behaviour within it as well at times.

If by "ruin" you mean, debate my opposing views to the fullest then by all means yes! Pretty sure those who disagree don't have a monopoly on open discussion anywhere on the Internet.

It's just weird, really. People were linking it to give a flavour of some discussions on there. Many of us already frequent it one way or another. Apparently the fact that out of the 600k or so posters reddit has, a few of us expressing criticism of Venat on there is a huge problem, even if that wasn't really the intention behind posting the links - but people are adults and it's not really my business to police whether they do go on there to discuss it or not, nor do I see an issue with it. I tend to avoid 'discussions' on there as they often devolve into little more than shouting matches, and some users there can engage in behaviour that borders on stalking.

It's already an echo chamber in a different direction - redditors are often in the habit of downvoting any posts critical of the story, particularly if they're posted early on in a thread... and again, this sort of defensiveness was never present back in SHB, when reddit was full of threads that got quite heated about anyone who liked Emet (other than for those people who just liked shipping him...although even then I noticed some instances of it.) But with Venat we're just meant to roll with it and "move on". Strange. Should it be surprising that there is more pushback now given how EW concluded and the tidbits the Q&A clarified? I'd say no.

You ask people to stop whenever there's a little bit of hydaelyn vs zodiark debate outside of that one thread, people comply to that, then you blame us for making the lore forum dead? There's a bazillion ff14 lore that had nothing to do with Hydaely/Zodiark, and even if some people go rogue and post irrelevant debate on that threads, you can just ignore them? Go make your own lore threads if you're that concerned about it being dead lol. Lore forum being low traffic isn't weird, pretty much happen in other place too. Even lore discussion discord devolves into arguing over morality etc just like here or reddit, because when there's nothing new added, what should people discuss that haven't been done?

You ask people to stop whenever there's a little bit of hydaelyn vs zodiark debate outside of that one thread, people comply to that, then you blame us for making the lore forum dead? There's a bazillion ff14 lore that had nothing to do with Hydaely/Zodiark, and even if some people go rogue and post irrelevant debate on that threads, you can just ignore them? Go make your own lore threads if you're that concerned about it being dead lol. Lore forum being low traffic isn't weird, pretty much happen in other place too. Even lore discussion discord devolves into arguing over morality etc just like here or reddit, because when there's nothing new added, what should people discuss that haven't been done?

Quite frankly, a lot of people have little desire to discuss the lore until we get some clearer indication of where things are headed in the future and whether it's even something worth taking an interest in. There's already some good posters on there who either have quit or are on the verge of doing so, including amongst them those originally receptive to Venat as a character, so coupled with the fact that it's a quieter period, I am not surprised. Though as you say, said poster is free to set up threads on topics that interest them or participate in existing ones... but it's not like anyone has an obligation to keep the lore forum active or not cross-link reddit threads...