What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kozh]

(As for The Sound itself coming from the earth: I had just presumed it was Meteion's scream bouncing off the ground. I realise this is the most boring theory ever, but it's what we've got so far, and I doubt they're going to go back to that.)

Don't remind me please, I'm still angry that The Sound turns out is just some broken twitter bird (made by a totally-fit-for-chief-position guy) screaming at us. I remember going into quite a deep rabbit hole discussing the Sound back in ShB, ranging from simple "it's jenova", to "it's Pandaemonium", to something something with deep symbolic meaning. Same with how "zodiark weave a new reality", when it's actually just "put aether bubble" and "jump start the stagnated etheirys's aether" (I mean, it's still an incredible feat, but very much less cool).

I’ve had someone compare me with rape apologists, Theodorics compared enjoying Endwalker as being like preferring fast food over steak, people repeatedly discuss defenses of Venat as just simping. I’ve got beef with that, as I would expect anyone to.

And we have people constantly comparing us to genocide apologist, colonize apologist, people repeteadly discuss defense of Emet as just simping and lacking real-life morality, people who openly insults and to some extent using death-threat. All of this ever since day one since ShB dropped. Even way before if we change it into discussion regarding Gaius or other villains.


See, here's the thing, we make our defense (or sometimes attack) on a fictional character, you know, someone who isn't real. But then come people attacking us, real people, over some fictional character. Which one is worse?

I don't deny that at this point, both sides can be pretty toxic and stubborn. We may never able to reach compromise more likely (just like venat's and zodiark's faction lol), but why are you surprised when one side keep poking the hornet nest?

The lore sub forum is pretty much dead, and we have this thread now brigading Reddit discussions.

You ask people to stop whenever there's a little bit of hydaelyn vs zodiark debate outside of that one thread, people comply to that, then you blame us for making the lore forum dead? There's a bazillion ff14 lore that had nothing to do with Hydaely/Zodiark, and even if some people go rogue and post irrelevant debate on that threads, you can just ignore them? Go make your own lore threads if you're that concerned about it being dead lol. Lore forum being low traffic isn't weird, pretty much happen in other place too. Even lore discussion discord devolves into arguing over morality etc just like here or reddit, because when there's nothing new added, what should people discuss that haven't been done?