What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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I don’t think anyone here expects to really change anyones mind. This is just purely a thread to give our opinions on the expansion and what we think it did wrong. People are free to disagree, but as such is in a public forum or any debate space, people should be prepared to face opposition.I don’t think anyone has really claimed the things you’re saying they have about you.

I’ve had someone compare me with rape apologists, Theodorics compared enjoying Endwalker as being like preferring fast food over steak, people repeatedly discuss defenses of Venat as just simping. I’ve got beef with that, as I would expect anyone to.

As far as Theodric’s comment goes, i don’t really see it as insincere. People in the community do call her Crystal mom or Crystal mommy, he’s simply using the same terminology as them. Certainly isn’t any worse than the people who went around calling Villain fans genocide sympathizers or nazi etc. Of which people never really denounced or commented on. It’s only now that certain characters being under fire is an issue.

Ah so I’m not allowed to disagree when those self same people do what they criticized others for. Got it.

Either way i suppose in the end my point is this, people are free to like or dislike whatever characters they want. As for your earlier comment though, i find it a bit amusing you act like the group of people in this thread ruined the forums discussion threads, and not accepting that you and the people that share your ideas aren’t also a part of the problem, what with the passive aggressiveness, death threats, and so on and so forth.

I wasn’t party to the death threats nor were they at all justifiable. But I will say until I’m hoarse that passive aggressiveness given only came in response to passive aggressiveness received. Doesn’t make it right of course, but when you’ve been on the receiving end of insults since SHB by the same people in this very thread I do have to make my displeasure known.

This seems incredibly hypocritical, especially when you say right before that criticism "ruining" the official forums is merely voicing disagreement.

The lore sub forum is pretty much dead, and we have this thread now brigading Reddit discussions. Forgive me for having problems with that. I accept that my arguing did not help in the slightest and contributed to the flames. But I didn’t start the fire, and I won’t agree to disagree on that.