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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    It's not 'hate' because it's Linux. It's intense dislike of the sense of entitlement in "SE must correct their <insert favorite swear word> code because we're important to their bottom line and it inconveniences us."

    Tone the superior attitude down a bit, O Linux Godlings.
    FFXIV along with DQX FFXI raked in $420 million (nice) according to the February's earnings report.

    Expecting them to do better with something as simple as the login client is pretty fair given the scale of things and potential pay off down the line no?
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    I love hearing how Linux is so rare just a few or us use it, I must be going crazy but I think more than half mobile phones are running a Linux based operating system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkvalefor View Post
    I love hearing how Linux is so rare just a few or us use it, I must be going crazy but I think more than half mobile phones are running a Linux based operating system.
    To be fair, from the perspective of desktop/gaming computing it is a pretty small market-share. Cloud computing (and mobile) is another story indeed, where Linux easily makes up 90% of the market.

    That said, if the core game works effortlessly on Linux it's pretty unreasonable to deny the entire platform over something as stupid as the way they're choosing to render the launcher of all things. The amount of extremely hostile white-knighting in this thread is extremely embarrassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    It's not 'hate' because it's Linux. It's intense dislike of the sense of entitlement in "SE must correct their <insert favorite swear word> code because we're important to their bottom line and it inconveniences us."

    Tone the superior attitude down a bit, O Linux Godlings.
    Imagine wanting to be able to use the product you pay for
    Pretty entitled amirite

    ...like I don't use Linux, never have, prooobably never will, but some of the responses to this problem are genuinely kind of baffling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkvalefor View Post
    I love hearing how Linux is so rare just a few or us use it, I must be going crazy but I think more than half mobile phones are running a Linux based operating system.
    The desktop market share of Linux is at 2 - 5%. It is not huge.


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  6. #76
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    I don't use Linux myself but I do not understand the bad attitude from people in this thread. They just want to play the game why does it bother you so much? I have friends on Linux and have played with no issues for years ( and still no issues, the recent issues are purely a Steam problem ). Why does it bother you so much? Just crawl back under your bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    I don't use Linux myself but I do not understand the bad attitude from people in this thread. They just want to play the game why does it bother you so much? I have friends on Linux and have played with no issues for years ( and still no issues, the recent issues are purely a Steam problem ). Why does it bother you so much? Just crawl back under your bridge.
    I agree, I have ever used Linux but if people want to use another OS whats wrong with that? Steam has worked hard on Proton and its very user friendly I think many companies are worried about the cheating that can happen due to its programming
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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    I agree, I have ever used Linux but if people want to use another OS whats wrong with that? Steam has worked hard on Proton and its very user friendly I think many companies are worried about the cheating that can happen due to its programming
    Cheating is also possible with Windows. You can run the game in an VM or start a cheat with Administrator rights and the game cannot do anything against it. It can propably detect a cheat and then shutdown itself. But there can be a new cheat, which is not detectable.

    The problem with FF14 is, it relies extremly on certain Windows tech like Internet Explorer or DirectX. This can cause quickly serious trouble when those requirements are not completely met like with Linux + Wine. Also a new Windows version or a new security patch, which alters this Windows tech a little bit can make it incompatible or cause crashes etc.

    Relying on Windows tech was not a bad idea for a very long time. Microsoft had a "high backwards compatibility"-policy in the past. Since Windows Vista they loosened it a little bit and with Windows 8 they loosened it more. Today i would not use specific Windows tech anymore. Because it can get deprecated very quickly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Cheating is also possible with Windows.
    Problem is linux users have direct access to their kernals making cheating significantly easier. Its why Bungie made a post a few weeks back straight up saying that if you try to play on linux they will ban you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Problem is linux users have direct access to their kernals making cheating significantly easier. Its why Bungie made a post a few weeks back straight up saying that if you try to play on linux they will ban you.
    I highly doubt, that a cheater will compile an own Linux kernel only to cheat. There are way easier ways to cheat even with Windows. And i never heard of that, that there are cheats for Linux, which require a patched kernel. And banning people, who play on Steam Deck can have other reasons. Maybe Bungie and Valve are not friends anymore. Bungie has been aquired by Sony. Sony and Valve are competitors.


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