In March Linux Proton Users Will No Longer Be Able to Play The Game

[HisShadowX]

I don't use Linux myself but I do not understand the bad attitude from people in this thread. They just want to play the game why does it bother you so much? I have friends on Linux and have played with no issues for years ( and still no issues, the recent issues are purely a Steam problem ). Why does it bother you so much? Just crawl back under your bridge.

I agree, I have ever used Linux but if people want to use another OS whats wrong with that? Steam has worked hard on Proton and its very user friendly I think many companies are worried about the cheating that can happen due to its programming

[Larirawiel]

I agree, I have ever used Linux but if people want to use another OS whats wrong with that? Steam has worked hard on Proton and its very user friendly I think many companies are worried about the cheating that can happen due to its programming

Cheating is also possible with Windows. You can run the game in an VM or start a cheat with Administrator rights and the game cannot do anything against it. It can propably detect a cheat and then shutdown itself. But there can be a new cheat, which is not detectable.

The problem with FF14 is, it relies extremly on certain Windows tech like Internet Explorer or DirectX. This can cause quickly serious trouble when those requirements are not completely met like with Linux + Wine. Also a new Windows version or a new security patch, which alters this Windows tech a little bit can make it incompatible or cause crashes etc.

Relying on Windows tech was not a bad idea for a very long time. Microsoft had a "high backwards compatibility"-policy in the past. Since Windows Vista they loosened it a little bit and with Windows 8 they loosened it more. Today i would not use specific Windows tech anymore. Because it can get deprecated very quickly.



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[Ransu]

Cheating is also possible with Windows.

Problem is linux users have direct access to their kernals making cheating significantly easier. Its why Bungie made a post a few weeks back straight up saying that if you try to play on linux they will ban you.

[Larirawiel]

Problem is linux users have direct access to their kernals making cheating significantly easier. Its why Bungie made a post a few weeks back straight up saying that if you try to play on linux they will ban you.

I highly doubt, that a cheater will compile an own Linux kernel only to cheat. There are way easier ways to cheat even with Windows. And i never heard of that, that there are cheats for Linux, which require a patched kernel. And banning people, who play on Steam Deck can have other reasons. Maybe Bungie and Valve are not friends anymore. Bungie has been aquired by Sony. Sony and Valve are competitors.


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[darkvalefor]

Problem is linux users have direct access to their kernals making cheating significantly easier. Its why Bungie made a post a few weeks back straight up saying that if you try to play on linux they will ban you.

You do not need Kernel level access in order to cheat. Bungie wants kernel access in order to implement a system which can check what processes you have open in order to prevent you to cheat, because they couldn't figure out another way to stop it, but cheats exist in Windows and have allways existed. In fact, I think right now it would be harder to cheat on Linux than on Windows, considering software like CheatEngine exists.

All this does not even matter here tho, because the goal of that Anti-cheat software is to prevent the offline user from cheating, so that their online interactions are legitimate. Here we are talking about an MMO which runs must of the logic and cheat detection on the server, it has nothing to do with the client. Whatever cheat you would do in the client SE would probably notice and ban your account as you are allways online, so again, Kernel access has nothing to do here.

And in any case the fact that linux kernel is open source does not mean you cannot make any privative kernel module, it's just if you wanted it to work on every linux distro, or in this case on any linux kernel you would have to either provide the source code, which Bungie obviously wouldn't do, and i totally support they don't (giving someone the source code of an anti-cheat software would make people figure out how to break it), you could also provide binaries for specific linux kernel versions and it would work without an issue, making no difference from Windows. So i totally don't see your point here at all.