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    I personally am curious cause I don't know the answer, but is it actually banable if a tank doesn't take hate off the healer or dps who went and pulled ahead on their own free will?

    If it is banable then that's about the dumbest rule I've heard, it's not the tank's fault if a healer or dps feels frisky and jumps ahead, if they make that choice then how is that a tank griefing them? The tank had nothing to do with it, the dps or healer chose themselves to do that and I'm a dps main who enjoys when tanks do big pulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
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    It is at least a legit reportable case, yes. Your job as a tank is keeping hate on mobs, mitigating damage; in short, keep your party alive within your capability. If you refuse to take aggro from your party members, you are neglecting your job, thus griefing and/or MPK.

    @topic: w2w are the norm from lvl 50 dungeons onwards with very few exceptions by reasonable risky pulls, e.g. 2nd pull before the last boss in Dohn Mheg (lvl 73), or by design (forced single pulls). Being in a lvl 70 dungeon, if you don't pull w2w, you are wasting the rest of your party's time for no excuse nor reason. Haven't done any tanking yet, but still join an "endgame dungeon"? Either run a leveling dungeon to learn w2w or be ready for a crash course.

    Ultimately, it was your choice to join said dungeon, so either live with the consequences and do your job or bail out!

    YOU are the tank, YOU stand in front of your party. If your party gets ahead of you, finally press that sprint button, rush the enemy, hug the wall, and show them how to stand your ground! Personally, I would feel ashamed as a tank if my party gets ahead of me for more than 1 GCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    It is at least a legit reportable case, yes. Your job as a tank is keeping hate on mobs, mitigating damage; in short, keep your party alive within your capability. If you refuse to take aggro from your party members, you are neglecting your job, thus griefing and/or MPK.

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    Thats not a tank's lack of doing thier job because a healer or DPS went outside of their role and acted as a tank does, the healer or DPS made the choice to do that so whatever happens is their fault for choosing that choice, the tank didn't choose it for them or tell them to do it.

    Now if a tank does a pull and one of the DPS is rocking out powerful DPS and manages to take hate from the tank then yes that would be the tank's responsibility to get it back, cause the DPS was just doing thier job , but the moment u chose to go ahead and aggro something the tank hasn't pulled yet then that 100% your fault, you made the choice, accept the outcome u put upon yourself by assuming a role that you're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    I personally am curious cause I don't know the answer, but is it actually banable if a tank doesn't take hate off the healer or dps who went and pulled ahead on their own free will?

    If it is banable then that's about the dumbest rule I've heard, it's not the tank's fault if a healer or dps feels frisky and jumps ahead, if they make that choice then how is that a tank griefing them? The tank had nothing to do with it, the dps or healer chose themselves to do that and I'm a dps main who enjoys when tanks do big pulls.
    If DPS pulled, didn't bring mobs to you, and died because you didn't notice they had aggro you can shrug that off as a mistake.

    If they pull, and you drop stance, Shirk them, or otherwise actively try to get them killed to "teach them a lesson", especially if you tell them that's what you are doing, that's textbook griefing and very much reportable. It's the same with healers who refuse to heal someone because they were a jerk in party chat.

    Not to excuse anyone being a jerk in chat, but trying to get another party member killed is never the right response. If someone is truly problematic: talk to them, vote kick if talking doesn't work, leave yourself if vote kick doesn't work.
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