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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzinor View Post
    Maybe back in 2008 yes, not anymore, unless you are doing a specific mythic dungeon with a specific pack or a specific affix, i can tell you that wall to wall pull is mandatory on wow.
    Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but I don’t recall that being common in WoD and before for most dungeons unless you were heavily overgeared. Yeah, Legion onward it became pretty standard practice at pretty much all levels of gear. I haven’t played retail since relatively early BFA though so all a blur these days. Like yeah, I used to be able to pull all the way to Marrowgar no issue in 10 man ICC, but that was after getting decked in mostly Heroic 25 man gear.
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    Last edited by Roflcopter; 02-16-2022 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
    Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but I don’t recall that being common in WoD and before for most dungeons unless you were heavily overgeared. Yeah, Legion onward it became pretty standard practice at pretty much all levels of gear. I haven’t played retail since relatively early BFA though so all a blur these days. Like yeah, I used to be able to pull all the way to Marrowgar no issue in 10 man ICC, but that was after getting decked in mostly Heroic 25 man gear.
    At WoD, pal and dk were god to keep themself alive, at any ilvl so, imagine with a healer.

    atm, any tank can w2w.
    You can even pull room + boss in some mythic + dungeon (not in high key ofc but still doable at +15 or +16)
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    Last edited by Alzinor; 02-16-2022 at 12:34 PM.

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    it just takes time to get used to tanking. as we just cleared al mhigo i said you did a pretty good job
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    If there is a question or you feel uneasy on new content... Just start the runs with a test w2w pull or ask what the comfort level of your healer is. It’s all out in the open and no one has a reason to be butt hurt.
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    I w2w regardless unless I can tell the healer is inexperienced/struggling on the first pulls, even still I get some df groups with dps/healers trying to run ahead and it makes me itch a little, but I let them take the first few smacks before peeling as a form of mitigation.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxel View Post
    how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?
    Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
    And let them die. They'll get the memo.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
    And let them die. They'll get the memo.
    No, don't do this, tanks do not rule the duty.

    I will gladly vote kick any tank who tries this, it's griefing, everyone is easily replaceable.

    Edit: This is considered a meme actually, anyone who pulls this gets a trash talking, specially from TalesFromDF Reddit.
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    Last edited by Undeadfire; 02-16-2022 at 05:53 PM.
    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
    And let them die. They'll get the memo.
    Yikes

    Awful tanking advice, something id imagine hearing from burger king
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
    And let them die. They'll get the memo.
    Sure. Seems like a lovely way to get a report and a ban from me. FYI, pulling more mobs onto the tank would be deemed a playstyle choice (that is always wanting to pull wall to wall) much like how it excuses a no dps healer, cure 1/other healer equivalent spammer in lv90 content, dps single targeting on AOE packs or freestyle playing (that is basically both ignoring your classes inbuilt mechanics and combo/proper rotations (as in pressing your chained 1,2,3 which is at a minimum basic competency for your job, any job), since those all can be considered as 'personal playstyles' as far as reporting and the TOS goes. But pulling a YPYT (you pull you tank) or refusing to heal someone who pissed you is deemed aiding the enemy (things such as not doing your role, that is tank taking and maintaining threat, healer healing, dps at least doing a single dps attack regularly), along with things like MPK (monster player kill) are considered aiding the enemy cause it brings harm to your fellow teammates from mobs caused by direct, intentional action by a someone (obviously accidents and mistakes happen and that's a different case entirely.) So, enjoy your report and perhaps ban or warning if I was in a party and you pulled something like that.
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    Last edited by Aurora_Sylphy; 02-16-2022 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
    And let them die. They'll get the memo.
    Only trash does that.
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