Toxic DPS

[Alzinor]

Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but I don’t recall that being common in WoD and before for most dungeons unless you were heavily overgeared. Yeah, Legion onward it became pretty standard practice at pretty much all levels of gear. I haven’t played retail since relatively early BFA though so all a blur these days. Like yeah, I used to be able to pull all the way to Marrowgar no issue in 10 man ICC, but that was after getting decked in mostly Heroic 25 man gear.

At WoD, pal and dk were god to keep themself alive, at any ilvl so, imagine with a healer.

atm, any tank can w2w.
You can even pull room + boss in some mythic + dungeon (not in high key ofc but still doable at +15 or +16)

[smol_cofe]

I w2w regardless unless I can tell the healer is inexperienced/struggling on the first pulls, even still I get some df groups with dps/healers trying to run ahead and it makes me itch a little, but I let them take the first few smacks before peeling as a form of mitigation.

[Hysterior]

how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?

Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
And let them die. They'll get the memo.

[Undeadfire]

Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
And let them die. They'll get the memo.

No, don't do this, tanks do not rule the duty.

I will gladly vote kick any tank who tries this, it's griefing, everyone is easily replaceable.

Edit: This is considered a meme actually, anyone who pulls this gets a trash talking, specially from TalesFromDF Reddit.

[MyakotApelsia]

Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
And let them die. They'll get the memo.

Yikes

Awful tanking advice, something id imagine hearing from burger king

[Aurora_Sylphy]

Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
And let them die. They'll get the memo.

Sure. Seems like a lovely way to get a report and a ban from me. FYI, pulling more mobs onto the tank would be deemed a playstyle choice (that is always wanting to pull wall to wall) much like how it excuses a no dps healer, cure 1/other healer equivalent spammer in lv90 content, dps single targeting on AOE packs or freestyle playing (that is basically both ignoring your classes inbuilt mechanics and combo/proper rotations (as in pressing your chained 1,2,3 which is at a minimum basic competency for your job, any job), since those all can be considered as 'personal playstyles' as far as reporting and the TOS goes. But pulling a YPYT (you pull you tank) or refusing to heal someone who pissed you is deemed aiding the enemy (things such as not doing your role, that is tank taking and maintaining threat, healer healing, dps at least doing a single dps attack regularly), along with things like MPK (monster player kill) are considered aiding the enemy cause it brings harm to your fellow teammates from mobs caused by direct, intentional action by a someone (obviously accidents and mistakes happen and that's a different case entirely.) So, enjoy your report and perhaps ban or warning if I was in a party and you pulled something like that.

[Vortuna]

Tell them: You pull it, you tank it.
And let them die. They'll get the memo.

Only trash does that.

[Naoki34]

Just got out of Saint Mocianne’s Arboretum (Hard) as DRK. Pulled roughly two mobs at a time and at one point a SAM ran ahead and started fighting another mob while I and the team were still dealing with my current pull. I responded “Don’t pull ahead of me, please”. Their response? “Then pull like a man.” I explained I’m not a tank main and going at a pace I’m comfortable with and to not be a dick. They responded “Don’t make me laugh”.
The last boss they and the rest of the team died to failed mechanics but I managed to solo the boss from about 40%. It felt good, but my mood’s been soured from this toxic DPS. Is their behavior reportable? If not, how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?

There is no point in telling them, but act instead.

As a tank, you just take aggro for the ones you have pull and stop AoE, they will just die and complain that you don't hold aggro.

But denial is powerful for you as well as for that dissident Dps, let the pull and die, if no one taps, the mob will simply reset. When he gets tired of dying, he'll either quit or complain and you won't respond.

You are the tank, you decide. If the heal wants to heal it, well, let him heal it, you take less, they want to be a pain in the ass, be a bigger pain in the ass than they are.

It's sad, but it's the only thing that works with some people.


Since complaining too much these days rhymes with being moderated fairly or abusively with the new SE rules.

[MyakotApelsia]

There is no point in telling them, but act instead.

As a tank, you just take aggro for the ones you have pull and stop AoE, they will just die and complain that you don't hold aggro.

But denial is powerful for you as well as for that dissident Dps, let the pull and die, if no one taps, the mob will simply reset. When he gets tired of dying, he'll either quit or complain and you won't respond.

You are the tank, you decide. If the heal wants to heal it, well, let him heal it, you take less, they want to be a pain in the ass, be a bigger pain in the ass than they are.

It's sad, but it's the only thing that works with some people.


Since complaining too much these days rhymes with being moderated fairly or abusively with the new SE rules.

Damn i should've expected bad advice to come up here, but cmon
"You pull - you tank" is far, far worse situation than "oh noes dps pulled in front of me"

Since when do tanks decide to not do their job? If you are at least half decent of a player, dps shouldnt be even getting in front of you in dungeons. If someone went ahead, you just pull off from them, it literally hurts no one, and especially not you. If you can't be bothered to press one aoe skill, and you let someone die out of spite for something like that, you are being dead weight for the group, not them. It's pretty much griefing.

Tanks do not set the pace, and they dont decide who dies or not. Entire party sets the pace, curb your sense of importance

[Aluja89]

Here's the takeaway.

Tanks don't have a pull monopoly, you're playing with others and. I still can't believe I have to say this. RESPECT EACH OTHER'S TIME!

Also, you're a level 90 healer, did you get that far keeping your eyes closed? Did you not learn a thing when you healed wall to walls? Stop whining and actually play the game, you might improve instead of spouting nonsense like you're not comfortable, you had at least 40 levels to get comfortable.