Toxic DPS

[Aluja89]

You know what, I actually completely agree.

OK, im about to break out my DPS.

I'm going to bolt straight past the tank and run MT as my dps. I will pull the mobs at my own pace.

If the healer/tank can not rectify or tolerate my d***ish behaviour, it is them being toxic and sabotaging my game.

That makes perfect sense. I totally agree with you. You're a beacon of logic, and I'm glad you helped me see that.

Make sure to pop Arms Length.

[Lyth]

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I've seen this one happen a few times. It turns into a competitive race between the tank, the healer, and the dps. And before anyone has a chance to blink, you're all at the end of the instance and you're all grinning like crazy. I love those runs.

[DarkDredgen]

I've seen this one happen a few times. It turns into a competitive race between the tank, the healer, and the dps. And before anyone has a chance to blink, you're all at the end of the instance and you're all grinning like crazy. I love those runs.

Of course you have.

[VictorTheed]

I personally am curious cause I don't know the answer, but is it actually banable if a tank doesn't take hate off the healer or dps who went and pulled ahead on their own free will?

If it is banable then that's about the dumbest rule I've heard, it's not the tank's fault if a healer or dps feels frisky and jumps ahead, if they make that choice then how is that a tank griefing them? The tank had nothing to do with it, the dps or healer chose themselves to do that and I'm a dps main who enjoys when tanks do big pulls.

[ArianeEwah]

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It is at least a legit reportable case, yes. Your job as a tank is keeping hate on mobs, mitigating damage; in short, keep your party alive within your capability. If you refuse to take aggro from your party members, you are neglecting your job, thus griefing and/or MPK.

@topic: w2w are the norm from lvl 50 dungeons onwards with very few exceptions by reasonable risky pulls, e.g. 2nd pull before the last boss in Dohn Mheg (lvl 73), or by design (forced single pulls). Being in a lvl 70 dungeon, if you don't pull w2w, you are wasting the rest of your party's time for no excuse nor reason. Haven't done any tanking yet, but still join an "endgame dungeon"? Either run a leveling dungeon to learn w2w or be ready for a crash course.

Ultimately, it was your choice to join said dungeon, so either live with the consequences and do your job or bail out!

YOU are the tank, YOU stand in front of your party. If your party gets ahead of you, finally press that sprint button, rush the enemy, hug the wall, and show them how to stand your ground! Personally, I would feel ashamed as a tank if my party gets ahead of me for more than 1 GCD.

[VictorTheed]

It is at least a legit reportable case, yes. Your job as a tank is keeping hate on mobs, mitigating damage; in short, keep your party alive within your capability. If you refuse to take aggro from your party members, you are neglecting your job, thus griefing and/or MPK.

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Thats not a tank's lack of doing thier job because a healer or DPS went outside of their role and acted as a tank does, the healer or DPS made the choice to do that so whatever happens is their fault for choosing that choice, the tank didn't choose it for them or tell them to do it.

Now if a tank does a pull and one of the DPS is rocking out powerful DPS and manages to take hate from the tank then yes that would be the tank's responsibility to get it back, cause the DPS was just doing thier job , but the moment u chose to go ahead and aggro something the tank hasn't pulled yet then that 100% your fault, you made the choice, accept the outcome u put upon yourself by assuming a role that you're not.

[Terhix]

I personally am curious cause I don't know the answer, but is it actually banable if a tank doesn't take hate off the healer or dps who went and pulled ahead on their own free will?

If it is banable then that's about the dumbest rule I've heard, it's not the tank's fault if a healer or dps feels frisky and jumps ahead, if they make that choice then how is that a tank griefing them? The tank had nothing to do with it, the dps or healer chose themselves to do that and I'm a dps main who enjoys when tanks do big pulls.

If DPS pulled, didn't bring mobs to you, and died because you didn't notice they had aggro you can shrug that off as a mistake.

If they pull, and you drop stance, Shirk them, or otherwise actively try to get them killed to "teach them a lesson", especially if you tell them that's what you are doing, that's textbook griefing and very much reportable. It's the same with healers who refuse to heal someone because they were a jerk in party chat.

Not to excuse anyone being a jerk in chat, but trying to get another party member killed is never the right response. If someone is truly problematic: talk to them, vote kick if talking doesn't work, leave yourself if vote kick doesn't work.

[Mat13295]

The day this community learns to type more than 0/ or drop a macro in chat is the day these problems go away.

[Lyth]

I don't think that you can get into trouble as a tank for silently failing to hold mobs. The thing that always gets people into trouble is the stuff that they type into chat afterwords.

The really funny thing is that it's almost never the longstanding tank main who's been doing all their content on tank for years who comes in with this attitude. They're probably so bored of running it that they just want to get in and out as fast as possible, and if the mobs end up on someone else they'll just pick them up instantly on reflex. You're usually done the instance before you realize how efficient they were.

It's that player that happened to gear up a tank with offspec drops and extra tokens, and now thinks that they're a bigshot simply because they've decided to grace your presence as a tank. You can see them from a mile away because they invariably jank tank their way through the instance. Mobs are half health and everyone is mid-burst? Er, I guess I'll start moving to pull the second pack now. I've seen sprout tanks with more common sense.

[ArianeEwah]

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