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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Hot take: Everyone who treats any single side of the conflict as 100% right and the other as 100% wrong is missing the entire point of the story. With the exception of certain minor antagonists like Asahi or Valens, nobody has ever been pure evil in the game.
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    Cierzo Mistral
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Hot take: Everyone who treats any single side of the conflict as 100% right and the other as 100% wrong is missing the entire point of the story. With the exception of certain minor antagonists like Asahi or Valens, nobody has ever been pure evil in the game.
    Valens was 100% good, he just wanted to burn out the bad. :^)
    Asahi was merely overcome with lust for a blond chad who never noticed him.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Hot take: Everyone who treats any single side of the conflict as 100% right and the other as 100% wrong is missing the entire point of the story. With the exception of certain minor antagonists like Asahi or Valens, nobody has ever been pure evil in the game.
    Zenos is pretty much pure evil lol
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    No, he isn't. Everyone should read the official story "The Hunt Begins". Zenos grew up alone, unloved, neglected by Varis, abused by his tutor and trained to be the killing machine for an evil empire. Neglect and abuse can do scary things to a person's mind and soul, no wonder he's messed up.

    Also, we still don't know what Emet-Selch did to him.

    Just because he's messed up doesn't make him any less evil.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    No, he isn't. Everyone should read the official story "The Hunt Begins". Zenos grew up alone, unloved, neglected by Varis, abused by his tutor and trained to be the killing machine for an evil empire. Neglect and abuse can do scary things to a person's mind and soul, no wonder he's messed up.

    Also, we still don't know what Emet-Selch did to him.

    I’ve read the short story. I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned Varis gave him the best teachings he could along with trying to set up playmates with him. The dude was a bad seed from the start pretty sure even the devs say this. They’ve even gone on record saying he’s pure/ultimate evil. Can’t argue with that.
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  7. 02-10-2022 08:25 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    I don't care, I disagree. I'm 100% sure he'd be a different person if he grew up in a loving environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    I don't care, I disagree. I'm 100% sure he'd be a different person if he grew up in a loving environment.
    I’ve seen people grow up in a great living environment and still turn out shitty. While it is true in some cases that some people are shaped by their experiences that isn’t for everyone. There are people who grow up in absolute shitty conditions but still end up alright. In game evidence of this for example being some of the scions. People have the choice to change, they just choose not to. This was very evident with Yotsuyu and Zenos.
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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 02-10-2022 at 09:32 AM.

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    Yukiko Kurosawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Hot take: Everyone who treats any single side of the conflict as 100% right and the other as 100% wrong is missing the entire point of the story. With the exception of certain minor antagonists like Asahi or Valens, nobody has ever been pure evil in the game.
    Don't forget Teledji Adeledji
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