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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Hot take: Everyone who treats any single side of the conflict as 100% right and the other as 100% wrong is missing the entire point of the story. With the exception of certain minor antagonists like Asahi or Valens, nobody has ever been pure evil in the game.
    Don't forget Teledji Adeledji
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Don't forget Teledji Adeledji
    Yeah, I guess my memory cut out on that one.
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    If you tank the Bone Dragon at the edge you're a coward.

    Hunt system needs an overhaul.

    Remove crossworld hunting.

    Hilde quests weren't that funny.

    Write as many essays as you want I still don't like Zenos or think he made a good primary villain.
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    I don't think it's reasonable for either the Sundered or Unsundered to be expected to just roll over and die for the sake of the other. It's unfortunate that they were put in such a horrific position to begin with though we can most certainly place the blame for that at Venat's feet.

    You'll probably have to look up to do so, though. Everybody else has to walk, apparently, but somehow she still has wings. Not one to lead by example, I suppose! Hahaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I don't think it's reasonable for either the Sundered or Unsundered to be expected to just roll over and die for the sake of the other. It's unfortunate that they were put in such a horrific position to begin with though we can most certainly place the blame for that at Venat's feet.

    You'll probably have to look up to do so, though. Everybody else has to walk, apparently, but somehow she still has wings. Not one to lead by example, I suppose! Hahaha!
    See, I'm conflicted a little about this.

    Clearly some time passed after the events on Elpis. Unfortunately, the game doesn't show us enough. What was that golden rule in live-action/animation? "Show, don't tell?" Yeah, they didn't do enough so we don't have that whole buildup to what Venat does. The final days started but I would hate to think Venat immediately went for blood (especially given the way she describes how much she loves all living things) but at the same time, the custcene makes it look like right there and then, she made up her mind like a homicidal psychopath would when they flip their mental switch.

    It's all these questions I want to ask the live letter (or at least I hope people ask) but I have a feeling they'll go unanswered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Extremely hot take, quite possibly too hot: Lyse is a great character and much (not all, but much) of the hate towards her is cringey and bandwagony, she's hated largely because it's popular to hate her and less so because of legitimate issues with how she's written (of which there are admittedly legitimate reasons).
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Extremely hot take, quite possibly too hot: Lyse is a great character and much (not all, but much) of the hate towards her is cringey and bandwagony, she's hated largely because it's popular to hate her and less so because of legitimate issues with how she's written (of which there are admittedly legitimate reasons).
    I remember someone saying that part of the reason why Lyse was unpopular as a character was because it was unrealistic for her to be the leader of the Resistance after Conrad died and that she was unqualified to take on that role. Not saying I agree with that logic, but that was at least a few people's reason for hating her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Extremely hot take, quite possibly too hot: Lyse is a great character and much (not all, but much) of the hate towards her is cringey and bandwagony, she's hated largely because it's popular to hate her and less so because of legitimate issues with how she's written (of which there are admittedly legitimate reasons).
    I'll preface this with I don't hate Lyse. I hate how they did this weird reset on her character. She should have been more qualified. She was a Scion, for crying out loud!! Why was she bumbling around like some naive idealist? What did she learn in all those years out in the field? It didn't make any sense, and I choose to block those sequences out of my memory for my own sanity.

    She was done dirty, and while I can ignore it for the sake of bad storytelling, a lot of people can't.

    (I really like Lyse and how she was written in SB gives me A LOT OF FEELINGS)
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Extremely hot take, quite possibly too hot: Lyse is a great character and much of the hate towards her is cringey and bandwagony, she's hated largely because it's popular to hate her and less so because of legitimate issues with how she's written
    Oh My God...somebody said it...
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    Hot take for FFXIV in general: please, for the love of god, stop faking us out with "death scenes." We lost Y'shtola twice, for crying out loud. If she's going to die, let her freaking die. I'm going to be mega pissed if they bring back a certain someone whose name starts with Z and ends with ENOS.

    EDIT: There were no stakes for the Scions in EW. I thought EW was the best expansion thus far, but it would've been better had there been stakes. I don't think all of the Scions should have survived.
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    Last edited by Kikoten; 02-10-2022 at 07:07 AM.
    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

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