Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

[Imora]

The issue with quick synthesis is that it will most likely craft the item in normal quality, which often just makes it a waste of your materials. In mmos that just have 1 button afk crafting there usually is no "normal" and "high" quality.

Wows next expansion has quality.

[Imora]

In some ways it makes sense, like if someone wanted Thrall or something it would be extremely silly to request here "I really want Thrall in FFXIV" ... "uh.. if you want Thrall.. play WoW", but as an overall statement I feel it's silly..

What if WoW had very high quality instanced housing, or fantastic combat or something akin to the effect.

"Man I wish our housing was as good as WoW's"
"YOU WANT GOOD HOUSING!?!? GO PLAY WOW"

O.o, awful argument, imo.

Personally I see far more "go play something else / go play X" used as a stopper in the path of improvements of understanding. Like someone who uses another game as a reference to functional concepts and you get the big parrot "go play wow *squawk*".

Maybe the person asking for something gave a 2/10 effort, but I feel this behavior makes a 0/10 quality to the thread. I'd always prefer to see someone poorly trying to ask for something than relatively lazy dismissal's of concepts.

Thing is, it makes sense to tell them that when what they want already exists.

I play FFXIV because it's different. If I wanted wows systems, I'd play that.

[Shougun]

Thing is, it makes sense to tell them that when what they want already exists.

I play FFXIV because it's different. If I wanted wows systems, I'd play that.

You have /MANY/ of WoW's systems already though . . . Yoshida even mentioning WoW as a teacher / inspiration.

Of course you want the games to have whatever they do well, that's why you have to say what you like or what you don't like. This is in some ways subjective, just because a sports game does a sports thing well does not mean it has to go into FFXIV, or just because EVE does espionage systems in an interesting way for EVE players doesn't mean we want FC espionage here. Of course. But, in the case of WoW particularly, there are many many similarities and such it is not abnormal, wrong, or even factually inaccurate to say they could, can, and do have excellent potential to learn and inspire each other to do better. WoW and FFXIV have more similarities than differences. Removing the differences may or may not be a good idea but you have to discuss each one- not offer a sort of meek platitude.

Can you honestly say everything is perfect? Maybe you can, but I certainly cant and wont. (Though I would say I prefer FFXIV over WoW).

There are things I think WoW does well that I believe FFXIV could learn from, of course there are things WoW does well that'd I'd rather not have, and there are things WoW does awfully that I want to see SE do the opposite of.

"Go play WoW" when someone is asking for something is relatively useless, imo. Even when compared to a poorly worded request, I'd still rank such a comment as lower quality and value to the thread at large (if I was reading the forum for valuable feedback to help improve / understand players). Saying why you don't want a change that someone wants from WoW, and perhaps why it doesn't fit FFXIV but fits WoW would however be very helpful to read. But just "go play WoW", 0/10 value and just diminishes overall quality of discourse while it disrupts and derails the conversation.

[Hurlstone]

I really do not think the games jobs and dungeons are as braindead as some people say.

[Midareyukki]

I really do not think the games jobs and dungeons are as braindead as some people say.

Ever played a healer? Summoner? Red Mage, who sure, grew in complexity, but still maintains simplicity? A tank?

Some classes really only have optimization to actually care for if you're one of those who wants the absolute highest damage and would plot out every click of a button on a spreadsheet. Past that, the bare minimum tends to be as straightforward as "read your tooltips".

[NekoMataMata]

I really do not think the games jobs and dungeons are as braindead as some people say.

About time someone said it.

I mean I don't think it's that black and white of course. There are simple parts to this game within rotations, bosses, dungeons and whatever, but there's also at least a little complexity scattered throughout.

[pikalovr]

About time someone said it.

I mean I don't think it's that black and white of course. There are simple parts to this game within rotations, bosses, dungeons and whatever, but there's also at least a little complexity scattered throughout.

please do explain the complexities of single pulling dungeons not even W2W pulling which is player made challenge a single pack pull explain to me how you can't just complete it by having the healer just heal the tank when he takes damage and the tank just AOeing with tank stance on and DPs just AOeing. or please explain how dungeons can be cleared with 3DPS and one tank and is actually preferred by some people cause it's quicker and somehow easier. or explain to me how fights are so hard that they can be solo cleared by a tank P1N in on release GEAR mind you has been cleared by WAR and then the other tanks started catching up as they got access to augmented tomestone and raid gear. which sure you could use the gear excuse but should a fight really be able to be that easily over come by gear? to the point you don't need 7 other players and it's not even an old raid? explain how a fight is intricate and hard when it doesn't even have the mechanics to need all 8 players even at current gear or hell even in the standard 2/2/4 setup? hell savages are still being solo healed and even solo tanked despite having dualbusters and mechanics like P2s lazer. sure you could sit there and go well they optimized the fight. but how is a fight difficult when they optimize that heavily barely within the first month if not first weeks? do you think being able to WF clear an entire tier in one day is difficult?

you can sit here and go well players will have difficulty look at P3s it's walling people. yeah and you wanna know what strat is preferred for nados for P3s? elmo which literally drops responsibilities from 4 people. people are so bad that PF would rather put as much responsibility as possible on one/2/3 (you technically need someone baiting north nado thankfully) people than let the entire party learn the mechanic or get punished for not learning it. at this point it's not the fights or kits it's the players not willing to just put an inch of effort in.

now some jobs do get slightly technical/hard sure but does that mean the rest should get a pass? or that they shouldn't get looked at further? no and no it's like saying well you know what BLM is doing fine right welp time to drop looking at all the other jobs altogether and never touch BLM again til 7.0

hell i'd even argue BTD6 has more nuance and complexity with it's bosses/races than XIV has with dungeons and normal trials/raids and even some EXs and savages

[Soge01]

As Asahi dragged Amon down further into the depths of the lifestream, I wish Amon would have gotten the final word on him, telling Asahi that Zenos didn't even remember him and to quit crying like a baby over something he could never have in the first place (Zenos' acknowledgement) and cackled his way all the way down until he finally disappeared conpletely.

Amon may be a genocidal arsehole with an identity issues, but at least Zenos bothered to even remember the the guy existed. xD

[Carin-Eri]

As Asahi dragged Amon down further into the depths of the lifestream, I wish Amon would have gotten the final word on him, telling Asahi that Zenos didn't even remember him and to quit crying like a baby over something he could never have in the first place (Zenos' acknowledgement) and cackled his way all the way down until he finally disappeared completely.

Amon may be a genocidal arsehole with an identity issues, but at least Zenos bothered to even remember the the guy existed. xD

Agreed. Though I do feel that that putdown would've been better coming from Zenos himself really. If Amon, or anyone else, were to tell Ashai that he was irrelevant to Zenos he'd almost definitely refuse to accept it.

It'd be quite an amusing scenario in my mind, considering how the only person Zenos really considered to be worth his attention was the Warrior of Light.

[Soge01]

Agreed. Though I do feel that that putdown would've been better coming from Zenos himself really. If Amon, or anyone else, were to tell Ashai that he was irrelevant to Zenos he'd almost definitely refuse to accept it.

It'd be quite an amusing scenario in my mind, considering how the only person Zenos really considered to be worth his attention was the Warrior of Light.

Though people would dislike it, I wouldn't mind the MSQ taking us back to the aetherial sea so we can talk to Zenos. If/whenever we run into his former Avatar that seems to have fully possessed his corpse, maybe that could be used as an excuse for us to go there and ask Zenos personally who or what his former Avatar is and Asahi appears before us as well, pushing us out of the way trying to get Zenos' attention. And Zenos just goes "And who are you again? You do not seem to be the wretched Ascian who had possesed that visage before. It does not matter though. I have been reunited with my 'friend' and I will not tolerate someone as lowly as you to interrupt such a gloriois reunion."

And Zenos immediately cuts Asahi down without mercy, before forcibly draging his soul down further within the life stream so he won't interrupt them again, just like Asahi had done to Amon before him. With nothing but dispair and disbelief etched across his face. xD

Would also make for an interesting twist if this scenario played out in the story with also Asahi immediately returning as a deformed and warped vengeful spirit, like Livia and Rhi-chan did, hell bent on seeing our demise after we "had stolen Lord Zenos admiration and attention away from him". Causing Zenos to huff in annoyance before he offers to team up with us to deal with "this troublesome nuisance" that is Asahi. Starting an instanced fight. :3