Warning for "Grief" Tactics?!

[SturmChurro]

If you try to help and they still die, then it's theirs.

Exactly what I have been saying! I'm glad we can agree.

[Sarnai]

My favourite heals are the glare machines, that say "I have co-heal for that" and try to out-DPS others. Happened while farming Emerald Weapon back in ShB along with PLD with golden parses that ate half the AoE's.

Idk If you pick a healer then heal, even if it's a sprout that works as a floor tank or BLM that eats all the aoes. We're not in savage where heal DPS matters so much you can't overheal much.

[Misutoraru]

read through all 21 pages, with on input from OP

My speculation based on what and how OP written. The most likely cause might be not reviving down player when the situation allow. Then I believe there are some exchange of arguments and OP might have use some “emotional” words.

Could it be the truth, only OP, those report her and might be GM know. However, based on the limited informations/statements we got, I think this is the more likely scenario

[Senn]

You do not know whether a GM reviewed it or not. And when you look how enthusiastic the FF14 players usually are when it comes to report other players, i can imagine that they have an automatic account flagging system for that. Otherwise you would need hundreds of GMs to review the reports.



Cheers

How do you know they hand out warnings or any other penalty without reviewing the report(s)? Of course GMs look at it.

read through all 21 pages, with on input from OP

My speculation based on what and how OP written. The most likely cause might be not reviving down player when the situation allow. Then I believe there are some exchange of arguments and OP might have use some “emotional” words.

Could it be the truth, only OP, those report her and might be GM know. However, based on the limited informations/statements we got, I think this is the more likely scenario

It's really just a guess since none of us know for certain what the report was specifically, just that OP was apparently griefing. And going by OP's general attitude about withholding raises in certain instances and getting complaints for doing that, it's not hard to put two and two together. But for all we know, the report could have been for something else entirely.

[Larirawiel]

How do you know they hand out warnings or any other penalty without reviewing the report(s)? Of course GMs look at it.

I hope it is so. And i am still curious what the TE has made wrong. I do not like the "you did something wrong but we do not tell you what it was"-policy.



Cheers

[SturmChurro]

Oh no! I can have an attitude on the forums! Woe is me, that must mean that translates in-game!

No, no. Frankly, people have an attitude with me! They are lucky that I haven't bothered to report them, with what I have endured before via chat.

By the way, it is hilarious.. I have been attacked for saying "becoming a monster" (OoOoh) by simply saying I would follow the example many in this community make: to report griefers, people cursing, and the like. The people who reported me were doing great work, but if I did the same I am not?

[Senn]

I hope it is so. And i am still curious what the TE has made wrong. I do not like the "you did something wrong but we do not tell you what it was"-policy.



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I can't say I'm necessarily a fan of that, either. If you don't know what you did wrong, how are you supposed to self correct? (Though I think generally people are able to take an educated guess as to how they violated the ToS.) But on the other hand, if they give you more details about it, you could probably figure out who reported you and that could lead to potential harassment. As it is right now, the game won't even implement a 2-way delete friendlist system so as not to step on people's toes (which I think they should change). So I don't think they would tell you more information, since it would put the people who reported at risk.

Oh no! I can have an attitude on the forums! Woe is me, that must mean that translates in-game!

I mean... kinda, yeah. I wouldn't doubt it considering your posts on here.

[Theodric]

I think it's also worth noting that the FFXIV community is rather prone to subtle and blatant witch hunts. To the point where a poster can state something completely innocent in one thread and then attract the attention of an individual or group of posters who then decide to follow that poster through many other threads in an effort to frustrate and gaslight the individual they are targeting in order to try and rile them up enough to justify a report.

Some may consider that to be a 'conspiracy theory' but as someone who has been sent death threats simply for liking the 'wrong' characters in this game's story, I can promise that it is no exaggeration. I also think that people should not overlook the various Twitter blogs devoted to stalking this very forum for 'wrong think' to be displayed in a way that further encourages harassment of any poster who dares to go against the grain on any issue whatsoever.

I don't doubt that the same mentality is at play within the game itself to at least some degree and I also think that, ultimately, most player 'skirmishes' are over petty issues that really could just be let go and not be worthy of punishment.

It isn't unusual to have people come to the forum every now and then to state that, despite being harassed over many months, their stalkers and abusers are left unfettered - so I humbly think that maybe it'd be best for more egregious breaches of the game's rules to be investigated instead of minor scuffles between players who are frustrated over differing playstyles.

[aveyond-dreams]

As a general rule I *highly* advise to not display one's main character on the forums, and to instead display a lesser used alt in order to protect from in-game harassment. I have no doubt that given my strong opinions on Summoner there are at least a few individuals who would jump at the chance to confront me about it in game, when I'd much rather be focused on crafting/gathering etc when I'm not in instanced battle content. I do not want to deal with it, plain and simple.

(On another note, FFXIV twitter is...quite an experience. Besides more widespread general takes like "X is a cool addition" "agreed" I tend not to engage with users who are there to be negative or to complain about things that aren't particularly pressing issues, like if FFXIV will ever come to xbox or attacking people for liking villains because they have X quality they don't like)

[Padudu]

I'm honestly shocked that this thread hasn't been yanked into oblivion yet lol