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    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    Let's skip all of your speculation missing the point about Azem's gender and let's just say:

    ...Did you not recognize Themis's very distinctive voice?
    Yes it sounds like Elidibus. My entire premise is speculation. If you skip it, then don't bother responding to it. That sounds much harsher then what its meant to.
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    Last edited by dapperfaffer; 02-09-2022 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Yes it sounds like Elidibus. My entire premise is speculation. If you skip it, then don't bother responding to it.
    I think the reason people are a bit confused here is speculation is typically backed by some form of textual evidence. There isnt really any evidence whatsoever pointing to Themis being Azem or him not being Elidibus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think the reason people are a bit confused here is speculation is typically backed by some form of textual evidence. There isnt really any evidence whatsoever pointing to Themis being Azem or him not being Elidibus.
    Not only that, when you first meet Themis, he thinks you are his friend. And when this has happened with the Ancients like Hyth, they are recognizing the soul of our Azem. Which heavily implies our Azem is his friend. Considering the seats were offered to those who best fit them, if we're already in the picture in the same time period, it doesn't seem logical that Themis would be offered the seat, then step down, then possibly take up as Elidibus, and then sometime in there we ascend to the seat of Azem since the traits of the seat fit us perfectly. I can't see how Themis would be a better fit than we are.

    I know you know all that, Kizuya, just trying to explain to our friend how gender is irrelevant because our Azem is already around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Yes it sounds like Elidibus. My entire premise is speculation. If you skip it, then don't bother responding to it. That sounds much harsher then what its meant to.
    I did it because you're trying too hard to prove the Earth is flat when there's sooooooo many things that point at us being Azem and that Themis is Elidibus.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22