Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
I think you’re just at the point I was when the rework was revealed. I spotted the red flags with the Avatars using the Resummon mechanic immediately. The micro phases were just an extra layer of padding on top of that.

I’ve since moved on to NIN (which I am enjoying), but I do miss the old versions of Summoner dearly. None were perfect but most were better. I don’t think this rework has any staying power so I’m not surprised by the lack of feedback from SE. They’re probably just as torn as we are. We need to actually get a video out on the nitty gritty technical details and why they’re a problem if we’re going to get useful changes in the long run. In the short term (within this expansion) it’s just going to suck. And it absolutely has good reasons to be held in check unless SE nerfs those aspects out of relevance.
Well, yeah. If you take all the esthetic then SMN is quite simple. You wouldn't notice right away if you were a 80 SMN at 6.0 launch but it was a huge miss when you'd level SMN and from 70 to 80 you'd "gain" Phoenix which traded 500 potency for an automatic Medica II and Rekindle. They since fixed Phoenix by adding more power than Bahamut. Imho, SMN just collapses at 70. Yeah, Trance and Summon Bahamut are merged together now but you still gain new mechanics from 60 to 70. From 70 to 90, the only mechanics you gain are Elemental Summon Aetherflows which is just 1 button you'll use over Ruin III spam. SMN gets nothing special from 70 to 90. It's a stagnant learning curve for the job, rigid and impractical in raids. It does look pretty! I sure to like blinding myself in P3S when I need to figure if I'm stacking or spreading. I have a macro on my bars, I can because I have so many available buttons, it represents what I feel about SMN;



Now, this is a joke. People find it funny but it also reflects some sort of truth because I've killed people in my groups for having my summons to big.

I also think we've all got different opinions of what should be done to help SMN but I'm sure am glad we all agree that SMN gameplay is just the worst.