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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You literally rejoin with Ardbert, and Emet saw a vision of your whole soul. The Rejoining itself is what they were doing to bring back all of the ancients, which means they weren't gone...
    Uh huh, and yet seto and other characters keep saying "you're still you despite you soul being rejoined". Emet only saw that vision because he's already being sentimental enough since we're reincarnation of Azem.

    The sundered souls may still retain its previous "color", hence why they can uplift sundered being into ascian (mitron, loghriff, etc.), but they are still not the same person as the original one due to the reincarnation.

    Ancients soul that arguably can be brought back 100% are the ones trapped inside zodiark since they retain their "self". The rest have been reincarnated many times. Rejoining only allows them to make the sundered to be whole again soul and aether wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    Uh huh, and yet seto and other characters keep saying "you're still you despite you soul being rejoined". Emet only saw that vision because he's already being sentimental enough since we're reincarnation of Azem.

    The sundered souls may still retain its previous "color", hence why they can uplift sundered being into ascian (mitron, loghriff, etc.), but they are still not the same person as the original one due to the reincarnation.

    Ancients soul that arguably can be brought back 100% are the ones trapped inside zodiark since they retain their "self". The rest have been reincarnated many times. Rejoining only allows them to make the sundered to be whole again soul and aether wise.
    That would mean that the WoL is the familiar of Azem, and not actually Azem, since its both the rejoining with Ardbert and the Blessing of Hydalen that give the color of Azems soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    That would mean that the WoL is the familiar of Azem, and not actually Azem, since its both the rejoining with Ardbert and the Blessing of Hydalen that give the color of Azems soul.
    Dont think the blessing has any impact on the color of the soul seeing that only what the blessing do is to protect the aether from corruption. like invisible sphere around the soul.
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    The seas continue to rise while the lesser moon continues to fall, and ilm by ilm, the world becomes ever more unlike itself, without the illumination of knowledge, we but vainly flail as specters in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    Dont think the blessing has any impact on the color of the soul seeing that only what the blessing do is to protect the aether from corruption. like invisible sphere around the soul.
    Isn't that the Echo that does that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Isn't that the Echo that does that?
    The blessing is apparently the echo on steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    Isn't that the Echo that does that?
    The Echo is a fraction of the power of an ancient, a residual power that normally rests within all life in the Source and its reflections, there is a way to trigger awakening to the Echo which often lead to experience a vision of a star-shower falling from a burning sky. and seeing that we are sunderd we need blessing or the traveler's ward as Venat called it for protection.

    Jandor has a simpler term,


    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    The blessing is apparently the echo on steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayt1203 View Post
    The Echo is a fraction of the power of an ancient, a residual power that normally rests within all life in the Source and its reflections, there is a way to trigger awakening to the Echo which often lead to experience a vision of a star-shower falling from a burning sky. and seeing that we are sunderd we need blessing or the traveler's ward as Venat called it for protection.

    Jandor has a simpler term,
    So then:
    Emet-Selch: Yes? Did my lesson provoke thought, giving rise to further questions?

    >> Choice 1: Three of you escaped the sundering. But what of those who didn't...?
    Emet-Selch: Why, their very beings were divided into fourteen, of course. Yet by our power, we unsundered Ascians may raise up one of their fragments to their original office.
    Emet-Selch: Ah, but I suppose this in itself bears explaining. So... the names by which you know us are not, in fact, our names.
    Emet-Selch: Be it Elidibus or Igeyorhm, all are titles of office. And when an office is vacated, it may be filled by another.
    Emet-Selch: Over the eons, I have overseen several changings of the guard among our sundered brethren.
    Emet-Selch: And in such instances, the vacant title ordinarily goes to another fragment of the selfsame soul.
    Emet-Selch: While it is by no means impossible to raise up wholly unrelated individuals, 'tis we whose fervent entreaties brought forth Lord Zodiark--whose souls He claimed in the beginning--who make the truest servants.

    So then, the WoL is Azem in the consideration that because we were able to merge with Ardbert which lead to clarifying the color of the soul that Emet could see, which is like Azems, that makes the WoL Azems sundered soul. Which is where we get the power of the Echo, and the increased version through the Blessing of Light.
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