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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    fine, Kizuya.
    No, you weren't interested in discussing anything. Your initial response was

    My reply was speculation, to Teraqs post which was also speculation. No one was directly stating anything, it was merely the possibilities. So, there is no confusion. You're trying to have a discussion about something that no one said, about things no one was discussing.
    You’re free to believe what you wish Dapperfaffer, however i think i know what i’m interested in. Yes, my initial response was merely offering some correction to your speculation as it relied on something we already have an answer to, so i just wanted to inform you of that before we discussed anything further regarding to that. We were discussing Azem’s role, it was a discussion.Just in case it’s a foreign definition for you:

    “the action or process of talking about something in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.”

    There was certainly and exchange of ideas going on.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one.
    Your sig is giving off some serious "the hell's going on up there" energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    So that means even herself could have somewhat helped if she had really intended to instead of sitting on her high horse, instead of becoming a 2nd judge in the "judgment of humanity".
    It feels like pre-Kairos Venat and post-Kairi Venat are written for different story direction. During the Hermes boss fight in Ktisis, she said "this world (the Ancients) is not perfect, but I'm going to save it, warts and all". Not too mention the "there's nothing impossible". Meanwhile after kairos, Venat basically went "you know what, nevermind that lol."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    Did he one day wake up and came up with all of that on his own?
    That's the power of being the writer's favorite character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraq View Post
    You know what really bothers me about the level 89 trial, other than everything about it? It's the fact that she's judging us for being worthy of taking on Meteion or not, but we're talking about a being of pure Dynamis here and Venat is an Ancient Hydaelyn is an elder primal made of Ancients. How is fighting you technically supposed to test us for this?
    Well duh, because she knows that outside of special events where dynamis does whatever the story needs it to, dynamis and aether are basically the same. The winner will be the one who could punch harder.
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    Winter Nightbloom
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    My only real main complaint about EW’s story was Meteion/Dynamis. I thought it was a poor last minute edition. I really thought the big bad was going to be Zodiark. But I’d still say EW wasn’t as bad as other expansions, and certainly better than ShB.
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    I liked it.
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    Teraq Moks
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    All I'm getting from this, beside a headache, is that I need to applaud the gymnastics performed by the writing team to make Venat's master plan sensible and right and totally the only way to resolve this needlessly convoluted plot.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    They really should of just stopped with the time travel shenanigans while they were ahead. Or at the very least, expanded on Venat's actions and reasoning instead of hitting us with what appeared to be an abridged retelling of events leading up to the sundering. Any of that would have been better than essentially sweeping the genocide of her own people under the rug while simultaneously treating her as a wholly heroic figure.
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    Sieglinde Hresvelg
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    The sundering scene should have had more clarity and honestly told forward. Instead we got some artsy collage of disjointed moments of events that still leave a lot vague. Either they did not have enough time for those events or they did not know how to portray it and just were eager to rap up the whole story to move on to the next, so it resulted in what we got (IMO).
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    Shisen Akaitama
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    I'd like to point out that that scene is not the first time we see a character's memories not be 100% accurate (unlike Echo flashbacks for... some reason). It's admittedly optional content, but as part of the Bozja storyline you
    go into Cid's memories which turn out to be a complete mess, you fight Bahamut and Varis and other such nonsense etc.
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