Dark Knight Megathread

[Ryaduera]

Tangent, but...

I'd rather have some cheese (or, "features") here and there, so long as such doesn't pushing out more interesting decision-making. E.g., Inner Release lining up to prevent a knockback (or murder your party in O6S), TBN cheese, Cover cheese, and hopefully GNB getting something in turn.

(Invulns, contextually, do push out more interesting decision-making or overly disarm fights for having not been sufficiently accounted for, though, so that's another story.)

Oh don't misunderstand, I, too, love cheesing mechanics, but when discussing game balance it shouldn't actually impact anything because it's a slippery slope to "But I want my job to be able to just do anything I damn well please regardless of game health" on the grounds that if you have an ability with the purpose of cheesing mechanics in mind, you probably don't have balance health in mind. But yes, I love slapping on TBN and mitigations to eat a mechanic that should give me a debuff just to not get a debuff, same goes for the occasional Hallowed Ground and Bolide in some content. Maybe I just don't want to do the thing? So I just won't lol.

[Shurrikhan]

Oh don't misunderstand, I, too, love cheesing mechanics, but when discussing game balance it shouldn't actually impact anything because it's a slippery slope to "But I want my job to be able to just do anything I damn well please regardless of game health" on the grounds that if you have an ability with the purpose of cheesing mechanics in mind, you probably don't have balance health in mind.

Oh, absolutely. I just don't want to see unique means of cheese ever specifically targeted or outright removed in favor of some ultra-tight balance (which is the only point at which that'd become necessary, far from our [DRK's] current state). If it really comes down to it, we can use arbitrary exceptions, like those debuffs that somehow go through Hallowed Ground.

But yes, I love slapping on TBN and mitigations to eat a mechanic that should give me a debuff just to not get a debuff, same goes for the occasional Hallowed Ground and Bolide in some content. Maybe I just don't want to do the thing? So I just won't lol.

DRKs: Smileton last boss had ground-obstructing mechanics? How did I never -- Oh, oh right.



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Lingering Shadow: Heals for 200 HPS over 21 secs.

Should this suggestion have been 200 per tick (total of a still overpowered 1400 potency of healing, down from 4200 healing, every time you break TBN)?