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  1. #91
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Thing to consider is once they stop gating token drops you can just take a Warrior to claim every token and it might be a more effective way to either gear up other classes or farm GC seals or get desynths rather easily. Instead of 10 minute runs and competing for tokens.
    NOW it's a problem. I just found a way to get my alts a leg up lol
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  2. #92
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Thing to consider is once they stop gating token drops you can just take a Warrior to claim every token and it might be a more effective way to either gear up other classes or farm GC seals or get desynths rather easily. Instead of 10 minute runs and competing for tokens.
    Yeah sure... have fun doing just that. This is not something WARs do for fun or to get gear. It's extremely tedious and only done if you want to challenge yourself. Just like the PLD did with his Solo. So far P1N has been solo'd by a WAR and a PLD so it's not only one tank that is able to do that.
    But doing that fight solo takes alot of dedication and patience, you don't run in and do it first try.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 01-28-2022 at 07:34 AM.

  3. #93
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    Conando's Avatar
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Yeah I mean, didn’t both solo kills take close to an hour? It was just for the flex, it’s not actually practical. Though it still does raise the issue of healer irrelevance in certain content.
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  4. #94
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    I believe the point is in future, not currently.

    Right now it takes an hour, in the future if they don't future proof this charade for further normal raids, it can lead to another issue soloing other contents with Tanks, eventually quicker, at the same time it proves tanks are growing evidently indestructible. QOL is nice, but you can't keep making the game easier, easier, and easier, only leads on people leaving since there's "no challenge", I really hope next raid tier isn't so ridiculously easy this Xpac.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

  5. #95
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    NOW it's a problem. I just found a way to get my alts a leg up lol
    By that point 590 should be extremely easy to get either via tomestones or by upgrading the crafted gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    I believe the point is in future, not currently.

    Right now it takes an hour, in the future if they don't future proof this charade for further normal raids, it can lead to another issue soloing other contents with Tanks, eventually quicker, at the same time it proves tanks are growing evidently indestructible. QOL is nice, but you can't keep making the game easier, easier, and easier, only leads on people leaving since there's "no challenge", I really hope next raid tier isn't so ridiculously easy this Xpac.
    Pretty much this. This content will only get easier to do with more gear.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #96
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    FateRu's Avatar
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    Fate Ruler
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    Titan
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    Warrior Lv 61
    WAR is broken. This fact is destroying the gameplay of FFXIV.
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  7. #97
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    Chelsei's Avatar
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    Chelsei Katell
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I think boss encounter in general (dongeon or normal raid) should hit way more harder and require more healing too. The game is way too easy.
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  8. #98
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Pretty much this. This content will only get easier to do with more gear.
    Precisely. With better gear instead of an hour it might take 40 minutes. Maybe shorter if they decide to throw an echo buff which would be silly.
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  9. #99
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Conando View Post
    Yeah I mean, didn’t both solo kills take close to an hour? It was just for the flex, it’s not actually practical. Though it still does raise the issue of healer irrelevance in certain content.
    Healer are not irrelevant.
    You need healer to heal the DPS classes and fix mistakes.

    By giving a tank his self sustain you take some pressure off from the healer in casual content.

    That makes healer easier and more popular in that kind of content and that reduces the wait times for the DPS classes.
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  10. #100
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Healer are not irrelevant.
    You need healer to heal the DPS classes and fix mistakes.

    By giving a tank his self sustain you take some pressure off from the healer in casual content.

    That makes healer easier and more popular in that kind of content and that reduces the wait times for the DPS classes.
    considering how the number 1 complaint among all healers is the lack of healing required and the second being how there's only 1 dot 1 nuke for dps, this is in fact incorrect and even more of a turn off to playing healer
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