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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    This is why I am against DPS meters being freely used by anyone. I didn't ask you to monitor my DPS I didn't ask you to make sure I was doing optimal DPS. I don't want you to stick your nose in my business period. Because this is exactly how it starts, oh I just want to help give friendly advice, then it turns sour given by those who want to use the information just to beat it over someone else's head. Yes there are those people. It's not anyone else's job to monitor what I or any other player is doing unless you agree to it in advance. I think the developers are smart enough to know there are people out there who are just nasty and would use information to beat up other players. After 8 years I doubt there will be a change in their stance or SE policy. Beating a dead horse here.
    Well to be fair, your performance in a group isnt just your own business, it's everyone's business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Well to be fair, your performance in a group isnt just your own business, it's everyone's business.
    You are only arguing this point because you have a tool to do it for you. If this "illegal" tool wasn't available, I highly doubt you would spend your time inputting everything into Excel to see everyone's damage.

    When you state your point like you have, it only adds to the other side's belief that pro-parsers are ***holes.

    EDIT: That was not me calling you an ***hole, by the way. Simply stating the way you put your argument doesn't help your argument in my mind.
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    Last edited by AbysmalDuck; 01-28-2022 at 04:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalDuck View Post
    You are only arguing this point because you have a tool to do it for you. If this "illegal" tool wasn't available, I highly doubt you would spend your time inputting everything into Excel to see everyone's damage.

    When you state your point like you have, it only adds to the other side's belief that pro-parsers are ***holes.

    EDIT: That was not me calling you an ***hole, by the way. Simply stating the way you put your argument doesn't help your argument in my mind.
    No you're performance is always everyone's business, even without a parser. Just because that information isnt easily available without a parser (not technically hidden, someone who knows the job you play well will be able to notice mistakes like dropped dots, misaligned or drifted buffs) doesnt mean your performance has no impact on the group. You should still try your best and realize that there is always room for improvement.
    I actually do believe that the current solution of "dont ask, dont tell" works well considering the alternatives. No decision will be without downsides and if really needed you can always just silently kick someone from your PF as you dont need any reason at all to do that. I definitely do not want toxic people who dont know what they are doing flailing around parser numbers.
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