Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
I'll only push others to fix their dps if dps is the core issue. Mechanically they can be just fine. But if we're in a pre-made or even a static - yes, I'm going to have an issue with people sandbagging runs.

Personally I don't care about DF. But I do care in a pre-arranged environment where decent dps allows for clears. The minimal expectation in raiding is competence. Both mechanically and dps-wise.

I won't harass people who don't do either. I'll just kick them. Or request my static lead to either talk to them or remove them from our 8 man if they're not willing to improve.
And you wanna know something? Im totally fine with that. Ive been constantly saying that I'm fine and accept that this is a thing. Do I like it? Not really, I still think its kinda toxic despite the good intentions, but its something that happens with a portion of the raiding community and what people do within their own statics isnt ultimately my problem.

I just dont want to see parsing as an <ahem> "official" full on requirement for raiding. Its not completely necessary, it creates more harm than good for to the community but I'm not gonna stop you if you want to form hardcore groups that use them for content.