Another MSQ roulette post: We need change on some level

[Floortank]

It is in fact actionable to leave Castrum repeatedly:

・Intentional leaving or disconnection

Refers to the act of obstructing another person's gameplay by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.

Since the game relies on internet connectivity, it is inevitable that there will be network disconnections or real-life circumstances which prevent you from playing the game. As such, simply disconnecting or remaining inactive in the game will not result in a penalty.

However, if a report is filed, a penalty will be issued if the following types of situations are confirmed to be occurring repeatedly:

Occurs right after entering a duty
Occurs when progress is not going well in a duty
Occurs when the team is about to be defeated in PvP
Even if there was no intention to interfere with others, repeated occurrences can be a nuisance to others. If you are experiencing network instability, or if you are frequently unable to play due to real-world circumstances, be considerate of others by refraining from participating in the duty/content, taking into account that you may unintentionally cause issues for others.

Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act was confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.

Saying you leave Castrum on SE's forum is not the best idea based on that last underline.

[Floortank]

Lot of Karens asking for people to be punished for "inconveniencing" them. You're still in the duty, they gotta wait 30 minutes to re-queue for anything. It will never in the history of this game take 30 minutes to reform a Castrum run. "BUH MUH VIDYA GAEM MY TIME!!!1!1" Get over it.

I would rather not get forced to do Castrum runs because you keep leaving the ones you're assigned to do.

[MilkieTea]

It is in fact actionable to leave Castrum repeatedly:



Saying you leave Castrum on SE's forum is not the best idea based on that last underline.

It is.
And, yes, it is enforced and those found in violation are punished.
Section: Obstruction of play - Intentional leaving or disconnection

As to if the player's who dropped have a "legit" reason other than "I didn't want the lesser exp run, so I dropped", that is up to the GM's to investigate.

My link was borked, I fixed it.

Relevant from link:
"However, if a report is filed, a penalty will be issued if the following types of situations are confirmed to be occurring repeatedly:

Occurs right after entering a duty
Occurs when progress is not going well in a duty
Occurs when the team is about to be defeated in PvP

Even if there was no intention to interfere with others, repeated occurrences can be a nuisance to others. If you are experiencing network instability, or if you are frequently unable to play due to real-world circumstances, be considerate of others by refraining from participating in the duty/content, taking into account that you may unintentionally cause issues for others."

By god, stop taking this out of context, please, it's kind of embarrassing

[Floortank]

By god, stop taking this out of context, please, it's kind of embarrassing

So you think GMs don't have the means of seeing exactly what you did and / or won't bother checking and that your "it's muh internet" excuse will hold up under a minor amount of scrutiny?

[Allegor]

Even in that description, someone would need to be repeatedly leaving duty for it to be reportable, and there's no way of knowing that unless you saw the same person leaving instances more than once, in this case, CM... but the only way you could even know that, would be if you yourself either left the instance too, or finished it and for whatever reason, requeued within 30 minutes, and both end up in CM again.

...or, the least likely case, the person is dumb enough to type something like "I've been abandoning and requeuing this place twice already!" before leaving.

[Michieltjuhh]

There is a penalty. We don't need to make it more. The game can't hold you hostage. Sorry if that's not what you want.

On the one hand, a fair argument. On the other hand, they did sign for the roulette knowing full well that Castrum is, if not the more likely outcome, at least equal in occurrence.

[Tlamila]

So, I was just subjected to the half the party leaves Castrum event and I got to say it's dumb and it should be an actionable offense besides the penalty. You willingly queued into a roulette and left when it wasn't the one you wanted. You know the risks involved when queuing into it. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do this and then they have to requeue into it and have to wait however long it takes.

I understand things can happen and you have to leave, sometimes at the very beginning of a duty, but for those that intentionally do it, yeah you know who are, should be some form of actionable punishment.

Luckily my group just pugged it: Me as Reaper(Tank), Dancer, Ninja and Astro. It took us 32 mins to do it from start to finish with cutscenes included so no excuse as to why

So there needs to be change on some level for it whether it be an actual offense or some thing much more milder than that. I'm just looking out for other rather than myself.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk whomever you are!

If for 32 minutes you got 0 replacements for all those people, whoever was the leader didn't look for replacements to begin with. So you're complaining for nothing.

Usually the replacements fll in before the group can even start the instance at all, so fast it is.

In the worst case, once I had a group that was missing a tank and a healer in a period not as many people as now were levelling stuff, and it did take until almost the end of the duty to replace, but with 6 persons it was a much faster and smoother run than usual since everybody actually carried their weight, rather than the usual people spamming a button on autofollow while watching netflix or afking.

There's literally no reason to complain, unless you're one of those who just wants to afk or press just 1 button and let others carry them.

And again, if they don't want people to leave, instead of making the penalties even worse, and it's already very long, they gotta make castrum worth the xp instead of a total waste of time where everybody tries the hardest to play at their worst.

[Mika_Zahard]

So you think GMs don't have the means of seeing exactly what you did and / or won't bother checking and that your "it's muh internet" excuse will hold up under a minor amount of scrutiny?

Do you know what the difference between DISCONNECTING and LEAVING THE INSTANCE are?

Disconnecting or being AFK are punishable by GMs.

Leaving the instance gives you an automatic 30 minute penalty time if you leave first.

Even in that description, someone would need to be repeatedly leaving duty for it to be reportable, and there's no way of knowing that unless you saw the same person leaving instances more than once, in this case, CM... but the only way you could even know that, would be if you yourself either left the instance too, or finished it and for whatever reason, requeued within 30 minutes, and both end up in CM again.

...or, the least likely case, the person is dumb enough to type something like "I've been abandoning and requeuing this place twice already!" before leaving.

That applies for disconnections/afks, not leaving.

[IckeDerTyp]

I think it's funny people don't have to do it after their initial time and yet...

People are willing to take the 50/50, even if it means leaving 50% of the time coz they got the 'wrong' one.

Strange.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I think it's funny people don't have to do it after their initial time and yet...

People are willing to take the 50/50, even if it means leaving 50% of the time coz they got the 'wrong' one.

Strange.

Prae is most of a level in exp and a big pile of poetics for minimal effort and a chance to catch up on Youtube/Netflix/a book/whatever else during the many cutscenes. It's not that strange.