Another MSQ roulette post: We need change on some level

[IdowhatIwant]

It is an actionable offense.

TIP...If you are queued for MSQ Roulette and get Castrum:

1. Once the instance starts (the pen around the group disappears), swing your character's camera view around to see the party face on and take a screen shot. Wait till after the pen disappears, otherwise those who are still in cut scene will have their names as "Viewing Cutscene" in your party list.
2. If players drop right after the searchlights are switched off (just after the first cut scene) and/or before the first "boss fight", take another screen shot.
3. After the completion of the dungeon, tab out of the game and open the two screen shots.
4. From the screen shots, you now have the names, jobs, appearance/race, and time frame of who dropped, you can also look up the names on the FF14 website Community/Character Search page to narrow down to the exact player via their World Server (just sort by your Data Center) in-case the same name is used for different characters. You can match the character's appearance/race vs your screen shots to be sure you report the correct individual. You don't need to keep or submit those screen shots, you are just using them as a "notepad" of sorts to have all the party names and times shown.
5. Copy the character name from the search page to paste into your report.
6. Open your in-game menu and go Support Desk/Contact/ and report Harassment.
7. Fill out with the information; Date/Time, violation description "Griefing party via dropping from active instance", paste in the character name(s) and their World Server, and submit.

The whole process should take only a few minutes tops.

Those who dropped will be punished.

Why is everyone's first reaction to report players in this game. Who cares if they dropped you are literally talking about doing more work than just doing the dungeon just to report a player for leaving for what ever reason they did. For all you know they had a sudden family emergency and you are trying to get them banned. I am going to make sure to black list you so I never have to play this game with you.

People like you are a HUGE problem with this community.

[SenorPatty]

So, I was just subjected to the half the party leaves Castrum event and I got to say it's dumb and it should be an actionable offense besides the penalty. You willingly queued into a roulette and left when it wasn't the one you wanted. You know the risks involved when queuing into it. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do this and then they have to requeue into it and have to wait however long it takes.

I understand things can happen and you have to leave, sometimes at the very beginning of a duty, but for those that intentionally do it, yeah you know who are, should be some form of actionable punishment.

Luckily my group just pugged it: Me as Reaper(Tank), Dancer, Ninja and Astro. It took us 32 mins to do it from start to finish with cutscenes included so no excuse as to why

So there needs to be change on some level for it whether it be an actual offense or some thing much more milder than that. I'm just looking out for other rather than myself.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk whomever you are!

The changes that need to happen are one of two things:

-Increase exp to match Prae exp

-Convert msq roulette to single player experience

I'd be all up for option #2, tbh.

Why is everyone's first reaction to report players in this game. Who cares if they dropped you are literally talking about doing more work than just doing the dungeon just to report a player for leaving for what ever reason they did. For all you know they had a sudden family emergency and you are trying to get them banned. I am going to make sure to black list you so I never have to play this game with you.

People like you are a HUGE problem with this community.

There are some seriously disturbed individuals in this game. Forget legitimate reasons for leaving an instance; who in their right state of mind would hold someone hostage in a video game of all things? People would more than likely just troll the whole thing or barely perform out of spite. Is that what these kind of people who makes these posts want? Lock people in and in turn, have an even more bad time?

Yeesh.

[Tyjacon]

There is a penalty. We don't need to make it more. The game can't hold you hostage. Sorry if that's not what you want.

But it's perfectly acceptable in your mind to hold the 7 other players hostage in an instance while waiting for your replacement because you didn't get the dungeon you wanted.
This is the epitome of selfish entitlement.

Personally I'd increase the lockout timer for abandoning the msq roulette to 24 hours. That would go a long way towards alleviating the problem.

[Caurcas]

But it's perfectly acceptable in your mind to hold the 7 other players hostage in an instance while waiting for your replacement because you didn't get the dungeon you wanted.
This is the epitome of selfish entitlement.

Personally I'd increase the lockout timer for abandoning the msq roulette to 24 hours. That would go a long way towards alleviating the problem.

Bro, why you want punish players for SE's poor design. In my opinion just unsynch those dungeon with a friend and problem solved.

[Juun]

But it's perfectly acceptable in your mind to hold the 7 other players hostage in an instance while waiting for your replacement because you didn't get the dungeon you wanted.
This is the epitome of selfish entitlement.

Personally I'd increase the lockout timer for abandoning the msq roulette to 24 hours. That would go a long way towards alleviating the problem.

One person said they cleared the entire thing with only 4 people because others left, so there is nothing holding you back from doing it.

[Jybril]

It is an actionable offense.

TIP...If you are queued for MSQ Roulette and get Castrum:

1. Once the instance starts (the pen around the group disappears), swing your character's camera view around to see the party face on and take a screen shot. Wait till after the pen disappears, otherwise those who are still in cut scene will have their names as "Viewing Cutscene" in your party list.
2. If players drop right after the searchlights are switched off (just after the first cut scene) and/or before the first "boss fight", take another screen shot.
3. After the completion of the dungeon, tab out of the game and open the two screen shots.
4. From the screen shots, you now have the names, jobs, appearance/race, and time frame of who dropped, you can also look up the names on the FF14 website Community/Character Search page to narrow down to the exact player via their World Server (just sort by your Data Center) in-case the same name is used for different characters. You can match the character's appearance/race vs your screen shots to be sure you report the correct individual. You don't need to keep or submit those screen shots, you are just using them as a "notepad" of sorts to have all the party names and times shown.
5. Copy the character name from the search page to paste into your report.
6. Open your in-game menu and go Support Desk/Contact/ and report Harassment.
7. Fill out with the information; Date/Time, violation description "Griefing party via dropping from active instance", paste in the character name(s) and their World Server, and submit.

The whole process should take only a few minutes tops.

Those who dropped will be punished.

LMFAO. You aren't gonna get me banned for not playing a piece of crap on this game that should be solo.
So everyone who drops something should be punished? We already have the 30 min timer what more you want?
Instead of this tldr, the best thing to do is make it Trust or Solo. Jesus.

[Toutatis]

I don’t care if people leave: replacements can be found rather quickly, often almost immediately. MSQ roulette is so easy anyway, you don’t even need a full group. I usually don’t leave but I did a few times due to RL aggro.

There’s already a penalty when someone leaves voluntarily (that penalty is longer than Castrum itself). I really don’t see the point with people wanting bans for everything. It’s ridiculous. Some people need to take a chill pill. We don’t see it that often anyway now that the tome event is finished.

[Duskane]

a 30 minute penalty is fine for leaving a 20 minute duty is punishment enough

[Toutatis]

But it's perfectly acceptable in your mind to hold the 7 other players hostage in an instance while waiting for your replacement because you didn't get the dungeon you wanted.
This is the epitome of selfish entitlement.

Personally I'd increase the lockout timer for abandoning the msq roulette to 24 hours. That would go a long way towards alleviating the problem.

What’s with the uptight attitude?

People can leave for very valid reasons. I left once just after the start of Castrum after someone in the house had an accident. Why should I be locked from roulette 24 hours?

And even if someone leaves just because they don’t want to complete the run, they are not holding anyone hostage. Both MSQ dungeons can be done with fewer people. Just queue for a replacement if you want (or don’t) and continue with the mission.

[Averax]

Honestly if they wanna have it so people don't leave castrum, they just gotta bump the experience up a little more, or just add some other incentive.

Or just make them into solo trials. It's not like leveling is super difficult right now anyway. The extra experience is a nice chunk, but not super needed.