So this game has dps checks but we can't talk about our dps in game?

[Saraide]

You dont need to talk about dps to just silently kick the problem member from your pf. Not pretty but the only thing you can do tbh. Maybe they will realize there are issues with their performance, maybe they will become a forum warrior and tos herald. It's out of your responsibility.

[Areic]

You dont need to talk about dps to just silently kick the problem member from your pf. Not pretty but the only thing you can do tbh. Maybe they will realize there are issues with their performance, maybe they will become a forum warrior and tos herald. It's out of your responsibility.

That's terrible though, we're forced as a community to just silently kick people? We know /why/ they're the problem but we can't say why no matter how polite? While there are a heavy amount of people with little will to improve themselves, there are still some people who /want/ to improve themselves and I'm sure would like to know why they're kicked instead of booted without a word.

[Saraide]

That's terrible though, we're forced as a community to just silently kick people? We know /why/ they're the problem but we can't say why no matter how polite? While there are a heavy amount of people with little will to improve themselves, there are still some people who /want/ to improve themselves and I'm sure would like to know why they're kicked instead of booted without a word.

Yea it's not pretty but someone who actually wants to improve will seek out resources anyway. The balance is known widely enough that if they were to ask around, someone's going to point them there and while definitely not perfect it's absolutely a good starting point to get information (even if the community there is not the best). Usually doing mechanics well and doing damage go hand in hand anyway.
There is no perfect solution because for every polite person you have who will point out issues in a constructive way, you'll also have a bunch of people who dont know their own job, their party member's jobs or the boss fight flinging around dps numbers in an effort to feel better about themselves and put others down. I dont want toxic casual elitists to be allowed to talk about dps numbers.