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    Atamis's Avatar
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    Cassandria Everfree
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Alright. Do you have a raid leader ? Someone that shotcalls mechanics ? Then you're no better than a cactbot user.

    Since there will never be a fight designed with cactbot in mind, there will always be visual, textual or audio cues to analyze mechanics, therefore, you won't ever NEED it, therefore, you will always be trusted to play without it if you can prove you can do it. If you're afraid of falling behind because you don't use cactbot, just get better, that's what PvE is about. And no, I don't use cactbot myself, but again, I still see no reason to be against it.
    Cactbot doesn't make human errors in judgement ot timing. It is a skill that is earned even if the raid caller is watching robot callouts on their end.
    When these mods become commonplace the community suffers. parsers toe the line as is and yes people still get filtered from statics for not having logs or acceptable numbers. You can pretend it doesn't happen by pointing to party finder but lets not pretend discord doesn't exist and hasn't become the premier place to recruit.
    I applaud SE for making fights have audio visual tells instead of relying on danger zones and seemingly random timed sequences. I just don't wish to see these handicap mods become commonplace and then required.
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Cactbot doesn't make human errors in judgement ot timing. It is a skill that is earned even if the raid caller is watching robot callouts on their end.
    When these mods become commonplace the community suffers. parsers toe the line as is and yes people still get filtered from statics for not having logs or acceptable numbers. You can pretend it doesn't happen by pointing to party finder but lets not pretend discord doesn't exist and hasn't become the premier place to recruit.
    I applaud SE for making fights have audio visual tells instead of relying on danger zones and seemingly random timed sequences. I just don't wish to see these handicap mods become commonplace and then required.
    1. If you get filtered make you own party.
    2. If you are getting filtered it likely means you are not meeting requirements to raid to begin with, perhaps take time to learn your class more or improve your gear.
    3. SE only takes action if you are using parsers to harass players.
    4. Not allowing players to join your party for x reason is not considered harassment.
    5. Dummies have no point in existing is parsers did not exist.
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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Everything said above +

    Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
    Cactbot doesn't make human errors in judgement ot timing. It is a skill that is earned even if the raid caller is watching robot callouts on their end.
    Either you don't know what you're talking about, either you do and just hate cactbot so much just out of principle.

    When these mods become commonplace the community suffers. parsers toe the line as is and yes people still get filtered from statics for not having logs or acceptable numbers. You can pretend it doesn't happen by pointing to party finder but lets not pretend discord doesn't exist and hasn't become the premier place to recruit.
    As I said, this is private stuff, and as I said, I'm sure if you can show these people in roster trials that you don't need cactbot, they'll take you if you're good enough. Or they don't know how the game works and won't make much progress, so you're not missing on anything. And even then, nothing prevents you from doing your own static, cactbot-free, if EVER every last static demands you got it.

    I applaud SE for making fights have audio visual tells instead of relying on danger zones and seemingly random timed sequences. I just don't wish to see these handicap mods become commonplace and then required.
    You've made that clear, but please don't call them handicap mods, and please, stop pretending you know what is just or not. To each his own, there are people out there that have their own endgame that focuses on gardening, surely, you'll always find people that don't want to install cactbot if it ever becomes somewhat mandatory.
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