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    Eriane_Elis's Avatar
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    Eriane Elis
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    (pt 2)

    At the end of the day I ask you all... Is someone using a third party program to enjoy the game even more, to improve themselves better really a bother to you? What if they have a physical disability and need to use a third party tool to play? This isn't call of duty where it's competitive, there is PvP, yes and there are bots playing PvP and they should be banned. But for the most part, people are using programs like ACT to find out how they can improve their abilities.

    We should be thankful that Yoshi P has allowed us to play this game without spyware to preserve our privacy. He is a gamer like us and knows that there are things that are inevitable. Let's be civilized and not break his trust and if hypothetically a third party tool is used, it's not used to harass other players.

    Here is Yoshi P's stance (Video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU
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    Darksummoner's Avatar
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    Meteon U'mani
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 77
    Is it just me, or am I seeing a ton of these threads where people are wondering what others have on their computers. Like who cares. Is it effecting your gameplay?? Otherwise these threads are useless.

    When I log onto this game I am not wondering who is using what mod and why. It does not effect me, so I don't care. I don't pay a monthly sub to wonder what person is using mods and why. But then again I tend to mind my own business and not worry about everyone else.
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Regarding Third Party software as long it doesn't affect other people experience regarding visual and gameplay I have no problem with it. But when you start seeing players doing stuff that you can't this is something that as inoffensive it seems, it gives the image of the game that you can do whatever and exploit everything, requiring to take a hardline stance to crackdown at everything.
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    EmpyreanHelios's Avatar
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    Quies Animus
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Great, just great. Now I want this to be a thing. I want this to happen and I know it's not gonna happen and now I'm sad.

    Thank you, very much, sir/madam.
    We can already float in the water, sleeping in the water is the obvious next thing! We have to push ffxiv towards the future that we envision! We will not be stopped by people such as this!
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 100
    "It was just harmless sitting!!" They cried and shouted as XIV installed it's 10th layer of great value game guard brand malware to purity test your client and PC.

    On the real I think people using cheat engine for sitting are goofy af, a little bit of searching and you'll see there's ways to get the exact same results just in Gpose and client side only instead. ya'll should just admit you only use the cheat engine version because you wanna be seen and get that sick limsa clout.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    "It was just harmless sitting!!" They cried and shouted as XIV installed it's 10th layer of great value game guard brand malware to purity test your client and PC.

    On the real I think people using cheat engine for sitting are goofy af, a little bit of searching and you'll see there's ways to get the exact same results just in Gpose and client side only instead. ya'll should just admit you only use the cheat engine version because you wanna be seen and get that sick limsa clout.
    Ehh, it's not really the same. With the sit thing, you can do it once with cheat engine and never have to do it again, or you can do it with gpose where you have to do it every single time plus getting the rotations and angles right each time.
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    Koldan Dalen
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Developers should implement ingame solutions that is going to prevent people from messing with the game (access to non-default functions, emotes and such that other people can see and interract with).
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    Duduno Wawawen
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind
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    Last edited by jamjeeshoul77; 01-13-2022 at 10:39 PM.

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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jamjeeshoul77 View Post
    This thread blows my mind. Cactbot literally tells you mechanics before the animations even happen. It’s a significant advantage over console players for many mechanics, even in ULTIMATES. If the game was only PC it wouldn’t be that big a deal, but it’s really insane how people convince themselves it’s fair that Square turns a blind eye to these things when half their playerbase is unable to use them. It really blows my mind
    What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.
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    Duduno Wawawen
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    What is the difference though between cactbot and some one calling out mechanics over discord which is another thing console players do not have access to.
    I wasn’t aware people who do call outs are able to read hidden triggers in the client’s files to call out RNG mechanics before the animation even happens. It’s cheating….how is this not obvious? Why do people defend this?

    Going back and reading people’s comments on these things, calling them “calculators” or “crutches”. It’s like people are intentionally ignoring the fact that these plugins tell you mechanics before the game gives visual indicators for mechanics. It’s cheating, it literally hacks the game’s files and reads hidden triggers that the fight designers don’t want the player to know. Instead of looking where the bad thing is coming from, it tells you where it’s coming from before you’re even humanly able to know where it’s coming from.

    It’s so incredibly simple what these things are yet people just seem to love defending them and disagreeing with people who call it out.
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    Last edited by jamjeeshoul77; 01-13-2022 at 10:58 PM.

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