Mods and cheat engine

[Atamis]

Alright. Do you have a raid leader ? Someone that shotcalls mechanics ? Then you're no better than a cactbot user.

Since there will never be a fight designed with cactbot in mind, there will always be visual, textual or audio cues to analyze mechanics, therefore, you won't ever NEED it, therefore, you will always be trusted to play without it if you can prove you can do it. If you're afraid of falling behind because you don't use cactbot, just get better, that's what PvE is about. And no, I don't use cactbot myself, but again, I still see no reason to be against it.

Cactbot doesn't make human errors in judgement ot timing. It is a skill that is earned even if the raid caller is watching robot callouts on their end.
When these mods become commonplace the community suffers. parsers toe the line as is and yes people still get filtered from statics for not having logs or acceptable numbers. You can pretend it doesn't happen by pointing to party finder but lets not pretend discord doesn't exist and hasn't become the premier place to recruit.
I applaud SE for making fights have audio visual tells instead of relying on danger zones and seemingly random timed sequences. I just don't wish to see these handicap mods become commonplace and then required.

[Shialan]

So, if this game playable without mods, why do you guys care? The developers are against mods, so there won't ever be a fight that relies on them. And if you see someone discriminating against players without mods, just report them, and they will get punished for harassment. Why do you want others (SE) to actively hunt down the people using mods if they don't affect you?

[Shialan]

Just that this is not happening in FF XIV because the developer does not support these tools. There is no content trivialized by using any kind of third-party tool. The same as there are no groups making it mandatory to use any kind of third-party tool to join them, because they would get punished for harassment. Also, people are saying for years now that ACT will destroy this game. What happened? Correct: nothing. Because, again, the developer does not officially support third-party tools and will ban anyone using them to discriminate against players not.

[Atamis]

It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
Funny how that works.

[IdowhatIwant]

It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
Funny how that works.

Not really, not when the community turns it into a witch hunt as to who is using parsers, who is using graphic enhancers. A large part of the community doesn't care if it doesn't affect game play or other players. The loud part of the community wants to witch hunt and ban everyone with a different point of view than them.

[Yahallo]

It doesn't happen because the community fights back against mods and here we are in a thread trying to justify mod use because it doesn't effect me personally.
Funny how that works.

We don't fight back against mods. Look at the raiding scene and you see the mass use of ACT and FFLogs. It has been a thing since ARR, always has been and always will be. You are pretty much wrong on all accounts as others in this thread have pointed out.

[Atamis]

We don't fight back against mods. Look at the raiding scene and you see the mass use of ACT and FFLogs. It has been a thing since ARR, always has been and always will be. You are pretty much wrong on all accounts as others in this thread have pointed out.

Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.

[IdowhatIwant]

Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.

At this point every class has completed savage. So claiming classes are discriminated against for 2% less damage is very inaccurate. And yes there is a problem with class balance right now and its far greater than a 2% difference. If you did any research you would know this. The class with the smallest percentage of playersr that have cleared is MCH. And that is because SE has held the class at lower DPS for some fantasy ranged tax that players like you have made up, so less people play the class in general. I don't understand how people think this community is so friendly when you have people making up statistics to fit there narrative. Sadly this game is full of players that believe they play this game this way so it should go above and beyond to fit there needs and no one elses.

Those players are the problem, and those players are why there is boring repetitive content, poor class design, and a toxic environment.

[Yahallo]

Gasp raiders don't fight mods meant to be used while raiding and just tip toe around parsers discriminating against classes that do 2% less damage. shocking. Please stop being disingenuous. All it takes is a trip to the dps/tank/healer forums to see the panic posts about perceived numbers possibly maybe preventing classes from joining groups, self imposed or otherwise.

Forum users are a minority and I see plenty of people using the lower DPS classes in Savage. You are the one being disingenuous here. Any raider with their salt knows that it is possible to clear with any job and that if you are hitting enrage, it is not because of the job.

[JanVanding]

False. This usually bleeds into the general population by making these "easy mode" mods mandatory to join a group. Take a peak over at wow where DBM has become mandatory for any raid.
Being difficult to see is part of the encounter. Someone having an undisclosed "handicap" is one thing but when the solution trivializes the encounter into a game of simon says, no thanks.

Absolutely incorrect and shows the disinformation campaign against certain plug ins has spread.

You can always tell the ones that are pushing hearsay over the actual facts.

The plug in you're referring to does not turn it into a game of simon says, in fact if you do that, you'll wind up wiping your raid as already pointed out by others in the thread.

It's a weak auras style cast bar and warning system, it won't do the fight for you.

"Oh but it tells you left and right"

So does the boss if you read the bosses cast bar on left/right mechanics or in P1Ses case, watch the direction the boss faces and watch the weapons it pulls out which is a heavily telegraphed tell.

"But it tells you your debuffs"

So does your debuff bar if you look at it.

It's not telling you anything that isn't information already available, anything that requires you to solve it with no cast bar tell

The plug in won't tell you. A good example is P1S shining cell flails, you have to watch the boss.

Another is Zodiark EX, how the mechanics work, it won't tell you anything because theres no clear castbar tells.

So much disinformation being spread, so very few people actually understand what that plug in does.