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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    So the only problem i see with the adult players here is that their standards get so easily compromised. Heck i would be freaking out having ERP with a random dude in the quicksand (we take the fact that i play Lalafell out here for the sake of this example) cause they could be a minor and i don't know it. And this is the point, the fact that this isn't troubling people at all they just accepted it as part of the system that 1/10 is maybe a tiny bit underaged is...creepy at best.
    Why is that creepy?

    Deliberately grooming minors is awful. We all agree on that. No one here is in favor of kids having pretend video game sex with adults.

    But if I ask someone's age and they lie to me, why should I care? I've done as much as any porn website, adult game, or adult chat site on the internet does. If some minor somewhere untruthfully testifies about their age to access some porn site somewhere on the internet, I couldn't care less. I am not their parent. Why is it creepy if I choose not to devote any of my limited emotional bandwidth to worrying about whether some anonymous person on the internet is lying to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
    Why is that creepy?

    Deliberately grooming minors is awful. We all agree on that. No one here is in favor of kids having pretend video game sex with adults.

    But if I ask someone's age and they lie to me, why should I care? I've done as much as any porn website, adult game, or adult chat site on the internet does. If some minor somewhere untruthfully testifies about their age to access some porn site somewhere on the internet, I couldn't care less. I am not their parent. Why is it creepy if I choose not to devote any of my limited emotional bandwidth to worrying about whether some anonymous person on the internet is lying to me?
    Cause it means you have compromised morals. Easy as that. Your morals are fake and compromised and you don't care about it. In most societies you have a public responsibility. Like not running naked through the streets in front of kiddos. Even if you paint on your forehead that you only want to be watched by adults.

    In many countries you have this responsibility also online. Not to do shit in places where minors are active. No matter if you put 18+ up there or whatever. This is a fact, it's nothing optional and SE has to act after it or well corporations have to act like they care so they can cater to as many audiences as possible cause money. So people will get hurt, just not SE. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Cause it means you have compromised morals. Easy as that. Your morals are fake and compromised and you don't care about it. In most societies you have a public responsibility. Like not running naked through the streets in front of kiddos. Even if you paint on your forehead that you only want to be watched by adults.
    That's offensive and patently ridiculous. And also not really an answer to my question.

    I have zero desire to ERP with teenagers. None. (I don't really roleplay at all and consider myself more of an RP ally, but that's neither here nor there). I thought teenagers were stupid when I was a teenager myself, and now that I'm old enough to have teenagers of my own -- and many of my friends do -- you literally could not pay me to spend time with them (no offense to any teenagers out there, but you'll get it someday).

    But I am not the police of underage sexuality and my duty of care cannot possibly extend beyond taking reasonable steps to make sure the person I'm roleplaying with is an adult. In a real-life setting (a bar, a strip club, a liquor store), it is reasonable to ask someone for physical ID. Here in a video game, asking someone their age is pretty much all you can reasonably expect. As Tosume has pointed out a couple times, what is actually invasive and creepy isn't taking someone's word about their age, it is pressing them to give you any kind of contact or personally identifying information to prove it.

    I'm not sure what kind of public responsibility (presumably legal) you think I have, but it is laughable to suggest that my legal responsibility extends beyond the legal responsibility of an actual porn site which you can access just by checking a box that says you're eighteen. Some do not even do that.

    Deliberately grooming kids is one thing. That is bad, no question, and it may be a crime. But that is not what we are talking about here. We're talking about adults taking reasonable, good-faith precautions to vet their RP partners and you freaking out and calling them names because they aren't super paranoid about the possibility that some kid could be lying to them.
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