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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    This is pretty ridiculous tbh. Square needs to take care to ensure their ToS is not being abused by haters who just want to run RP out of the game.
    No one is running RP out of the game. There are a lot of people skirting the truth in here to make it seem like their totally innocent, not in any way against the tos venues are getting them suspended.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    ERP is explicitly allowed by the ToS so long as all involved parties consent. So what point exactly do you think you're making?
    Yes, in a private setting. The party finder is not that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yes, in a private setting. The party finder is not that
    Simply putting 18+ in your venue ad is not an offer for ERP, or anything for that matter. Trying to pretend that this is somehow a violation is a huge joke.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Simply putting 18+ in your venue ad is not an offer for ERP, or anything for that matter. Trying to pretend that this is somehow a violation is a huge joke.
    They link their venue. That lists erp for sale, thus is it linked to the PF and the person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They link their venue. That lists erp for sale, thus is it linked to the PF and the person.
    So what? It's their own off-site page. They can list whatever they want there.

    Bottom line, it seems the GMs have admitted in this case that they handled it wrong. Thus, you are wrong.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No one is running RP out of the game. There are a lot of people skirting the truth in here to make it seem like their totally innocent, not in any way against the tos venues are getting them suspended.
    With the amount of times that people will needlessly report roleplayers and roleplay venues out of sheer spite, you can see why people would start to be skeptical and come to this conclusion. If we are not directly putting adult themes/erp in someone's face, we need to know exactly what the issue is. If it's venues linking their carrds, if it's their 'to-be-interpreted' language in the party finder. It needs to be more clear cut so we can follow the directions, otherwise a warning would have suffice.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No one is running RP out of the game. There are a lot of people skirting the truth in here to make it seem like their totally innocent, not in any way against the tos venues are getting them suspended.
    Spoken as the One True Mrs. Grundy of Final Fantasy XIV. I congratulate you.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    So what? It's their own off-site page. They can list whatever they want there.

    Bottom line, it seems the GMs have admitted in this case that they handled it wrong. Thus, you are wrong.
    Off site is no longer an excuse and hasn't been for ages. That's how they suspended the toxic streamers after all.

    And they are quoting an old post in regards to the topic from last year. Not this one
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Spoken as the One True Mrs. Grundy of Final Fantasy XIV. I congratulate you.
    LOL, I don't really care if they do it in game, or in private. I don't have anything to do with the reports. I just think there's a lot of mudding the waters to make them seem like they did absolutely nothing wrong.


    I said the same thing when streamers got banned for harassing people outside the game.


    I never said they can't have their fun. They just can't advertise it like they have been.
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    I'd encourage anyone who's been hit by these suspensions to open appeals. I don't know how well it'll work, but be prepared to state your case with as much info and knowledge as you can.

    I run a venue myself, and my officer who does advertising for us has already decided that they won't be placing us into PF when we reopen next week. Our venue offers zero ERP services, we don't allow anything overtly sexual, but as we're a fight club that engages in particularly brutal bloodsport (virtually no rules to the fights), we keep it to 18+. I don't want my friend getting in trouble despite the fact that we're nowhere close to being a sexy venue.
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