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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    I wish enhanced unmend instead made your next plunge free (no charge taken) and double potency on 30s cooldown.
    No. That would increase Unmend's ppgcd to 450. (Unmend itself at 150p plus a free 300p oGCD per cast), effectively increasing DRK's GCD damage by 44% as they endlessly spam Unmend.

    We deal 5310 potency every 17 GCDs via 5 Souleater combos, 2 Bloodspillers, and exactly enough mana gained through Syphon Strike for an Edge, for 312.35 ppgcd. Unmend spam would have to be beneath that.

    Just making Plunge free would, at 300 ppgcd, already put Unmend-spam within 4% of the dps of rotating properly, which could already lead to weird interactions like using Unmend spam to delay Souleater and thus max gauge to be spent under raid buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    No. That would increase Unmend's ppgcd to 450. (Unmend itself at 150p plus a free 300p oGCD per cast), effectively increasing DRK's GCD damage by 44% as they endlessly spam Unmend.

    We deal 5310 potency every 17 GCDs via 5 Souleater combos, 2 Bloodspillers, and exactly enough mana gained through Syphon Strike for an Edge, for 312.35 ppgcd. Unmend spam would have to be beneath that.

    Just making Plunge free would, at 300 ppgcd, already put Unmend-spam within 4% of the dps of rotating properly, which could already lead to weird interactions like using Unmend spam to delay Souleater and thus max gauge to be spent under raid buffs.
    I said it could only take effect every 30s, so no spam. Also the potency may look nice but delaying syphon strike and souleater will cost you resources so it would only be used when forced to disengage and re-engage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    I said it could only take effect every 30s, so no spam. Also the potency may look nice but delaying syphon strike and souleater will cost you resources so it would only be used when forced to disengage and re-engage.
    The potency per GCD given already accounts for Blood and MP generation. With your Enhanced Unmend doing almost half again that potency per GCD (again, with Blood and MP already included), you'd still be obliged to Unmend and Plunge every 30 seconds, as near as possible to on the dot.

    To use it only for disengage and re-engage would be alike to wasting (leaving its Blood cost to be fully overriden in overcap) a Bloodspiller and a half per minute. You absolutely would not leave it just sitting there, especially given that already have two charges of Plunge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    The potency per GCD given already accounts for Blood and MP generation. With your Enhanced Unmend doing almost half again that potency per GCD (again, with Blood and MP already included), you'd still be obliged to Unmend and Plunge every 30 seconds, as near as possible to on the dot.

    To use it only for disengage and re-engage would be alike to wasting (leaving its Blood cost to be fully overriden in overcap) a Bloodspiller and a half per minute. You absolutely would not leave it just sitting there, especially given that already have two charges of Plunge.
    Well then maybe that's too much, maybe it could only increase to 210 or something. But I want something that feels satisfying to use when the time is right without becoming part of the rotation.
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